"Weavers Words" Vol. 1 Iss. 79 Compiled By: David Collins Snail Mail: 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 Owned By: Weavers Everywhere Date Sent: January 07, 1998 Subscribers: 382 Back Issues: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5998/ Basket Biddin' Auction: http://members.tripod.com/~Basket_Biddin/ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Hi Everyone, ***IMPORTANT INFORMATION*** ***PLEASE READ BEFORE PRINTING*** 1.) Highlight entire issue. 2.) Click cut or copy. 3.) Paste issue into a word processor of your choosing. 4.) Now Print. Ode of January :-(. 'Twas the month after Christmas, and all through the house Nothing would fit me, not even a blouse. The cookies I'd nibbled, the eggnog I'd taste At the holiday parties had gone to my waist. When I got on the scales there arose such a number! When I walked to the store (less a walk than a lumber). I'd remember the marvelous meals I'd prepared; The gravies and sauces and beef nicely rared, The wine and the rum balls, the bread and the cheese And the way I'd never said, "No thank you, please." As I dressed myself in my husband's old shirt And prepared once again to do battle with dirt--- I said to myself, as I only can "You can't spend a winter disguised as a man!" So--away with the last of the sour cream dip, Get rid of the fruit cake, every cracker and chip Every last bit of food that I like must be banished "Till all the additional ounces have vanished. I won't have a cookie--not even a lick. I'll want only to chew on a long celery stick. I won't have hot biscuits, or corn bread, or pie, I'll munch on a carrot and quietly cry. I'm hungry, I'm lonesome, and life is a bore--- But isn't that what January is for? Unable to giggle, no longer a riot. Happy New Year to all and to all a good diet! Take Care, David davidc@iei.net P.S. I made a mistake in issue 77. It was dated January 08, 1998, but it was actually January 03, 1998. OOPS!!! I know it's redundant but I'm going to include the above printing information in each issue. This should alleviate some of the printing difficulties that some of you have had. P.S.S. A few issues ago I think that I read some Purdue Boilermaker propaganda. Well I got 2 words in response: GO HOOSIERS!!! :-) P.S.S.S. We have been getting quite a few new subscribers lately. I would like to thank Ms. Jana Tafelski of basketpatterns.com for linking them to us. The more the merrier. Anyone else that has a webpage can do the same. No permission is required. You may even add the Weaver's Words banner. THANKS!!! @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 76 Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 23:03:02 EST From: froggestow@juno.com (Roberta R Comstock) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 Merry Christmas & Happy New Year Basketeers! Hope your holidays were as pleasant as mine! After a week of gray skies and chilly rain, we got about 3 inches of beautiful snow on Christmas Eve, plus a couple more inches over night. It was wet fluffy snow that fell with no wind blowing and left the whole town looking like Christmas card landscapes. Bob's mom initiated her newly remodeled kitchen by preparing her usual groaning board holiday meal, which was especially nice since there had been no leftovers at Thanksgiving (the family having gone out for dinner because the kitchen was torn up). In with my gift from Bob's brother & his wife was a magazine clipping of the giant Longaberger basket at Dresden, OH, but I forgot to ask Jeanne what magazine it was from. By New Year's Eve, the snow and leftovers were nearly all gone. We had a high around 60 on New Year's Day so we drove out to the lake and fed carrots to the bison. I'm taking a break now from putting bibliography info for my collection of basket references into the computer. And, oh yes, my HGA COE-Basketweaving information arrived! Oh Boy! 1998 is definitely off to a good start! The arrival of WW #76 on Christmas Eve was a nice bonus present. Thanks, David! Don't worry about not being able to post the graphic holiday greeting I sent in. I appreciate your attempts & understand that sometimes these things just don't work out. It was a simple evergreen tree design with a star on top - I'll send it privately to anyone who wants to see if it comes through on their email. Diane R. - Did you get your lid fitting problem solved? I can't offer solutions without knowing more about it, but figured someone who has actual experience with lid fitting would give you better suggestions. There are lids that simply balance atop the rim, ones that sit on a ledge inside the rim, ones that have a lip on the underside that slips into the rim while the lid edge is slightly larger than the rim, and lids that have an edge that slides down over the outside of the basket rim. I know lid concepts from reading, but haven't actually made a lidded basket yet. Someday soon. Billie D. - Your discussion about twined waxed linen baskets was certainly timely! The Woven Circle Guild meeting tomorrow (Jan 4th) features a class in that very topic. We'll be doing little two-color pouches with beads on them. Doris Hynes is the instructor. Wishing you all good weaving, bye for now. Bert Comstock Independence, MO @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 78 Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 10:15:58 -0500 From: "Carty's" Organization: Pinelands Folk Music Center To: David Collins References: 1 Happy New Year everyone. Hope 1998 is a good one for everyone. Anyone who is in the New Jersey area in Feb. I am hosting an antler workshop at my shop in Rancocas Woods. In cleaning up the shop my son and I came across a box of antlers. So if you don't have your own antler to bring we can supply you with one. Anyone who is interested in the class can e-mail me at drpain@net-gate.com. Please excuse the drpain my husband is a master fitness trainer with the NJ National Guard and it is his nickname. Hope everyone is rested up and ready to start weaving again. IN PEACE! Mary Carty njweaver Pinelands Folk Music & Basketry Center In snowless South Jersey http://www.imagegfx.com/users/pinelands/ check out our website ! @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 78 Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 10:42:39, -0500 From: BDKE97B@prodigy.com (MRS BILLIE A DORRIS) To: davidc@iei.net Judith Olney, when I was reading your suggestions for the round basket I knew they had come from you even though I hadn't looked at the name. I guess it's your style of writing or something but I instantly knew it was yours. Nantucket rims are the bane of every weavers existence. I have seen the fitted rims i.e. John McGuire on a few other baskets. I think they must be turned on a lathe and then the groove cut with a router. They are wonderful but I think you need to be really experienced wood worker to do such things. One gentleman does that kind of rims but uses pegs instead of nails. They really look great. As for rim molds-ideally they should fit. But the inner mold always is "iffy" as it's size is determined by the thickness of the half round. As for nailing. I drill starter holes first and then use Jim's pound puppy. Of course the biggest problem is that once again the round side is next to the support and is had to keep level. I have been using Rubbermaid bowls as rims molds for the basic sizes.Since the bowl isn't very thick it is about equal to the thickness of the spokes. This is another thing that many molds don't take into consideration. When you form the rim around the wooden mold you are basically forgetting the thickness of the spokes.On a round it isn't too much of a problem but on an oval the shape must be exact. Also if you use the Rubbermaid bowl the flat side is next to the mold rather than the oval so you don't have to worry about the thickness of the material. Hope this isn't all too confusing. But if you think about it and do a little experimenting what I've said makes sense. I have found that molds for the waxed linen make a lot of sense and it is easier to keep your tension even. I just search the house until I find something that is the right size for the basket I'm making. I don't know if that is cheating or what but is seems to me that the finished product is more important than the way it is woven. My daughter and I spent the weekend organizing my work shop-what a delight it is. Of course don't know how long it will last and feel that I should buy stock in Rubbermaid from the amount I use. Excuse all the typing errors as this is not one of my good typing days. Billie in 65 degree Va. Beach @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: IBA Convention Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 01:57:05 EST From: Bskcreed Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) To: davidc@iei.net Hi Pat, Although I'm not Lora nor Ronda - I do have the answer for you since I was involved with the hotel contracts for the IBA convention. The next three years will both be at the Adams Mark hotel near the Indianapolis airport. The 1998 IBA convention is March 26-29, 1998 The 1999 IBA convention is March 25-28, 1999 The 2000 IBA convention is March 23-26, 2000 Due to the unavailability of hotels in April in the Indianapolis area , and May is also definitely out of the question here, we had to resort to the dates in March. I am aware that there is a conflict with Betty's Spring retreat and usually also with NCBA, - but we had no choice if we wished to secure a hotel facility. This also probably means that Betty will not be able to teach at our convention either :( Hope you make it back one of these years - either as an attendee or as a teacher! Speaking of IBA Convention '98 ........ For anyone who would still like to attend - we are making limited provisions to anyone still interested - even if you had not previously joined by 9/1/97. You would still have to become a member now and pay the membership fee & also pay the convention registration fee but there are a good assortment of classes still available. Your selections would be based on what classes were still available after all "on time" attendees were assigned into classes. Hurry though - confirmation letters will be going out by Jan 10 and call in for extra hours will be Jan 20-23, 1998. All classes left over after Jan 23 will be offered for sale at convention. If interested, send me a note or give me a call and I'd be glad to discuss availability with you. Lynn Pawley Bskcreed @aol.com @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 78 Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 16:51:07 -0500 From: MYLOIS Organization: Prodigy Internet To: David Collins References: 1 Hi All: I am relatively new at basket weaving but am very pleased with my progress thus far. I took lessons for two years and now have branched out on my own. I have a question about the Nantucket Baskets. I have been reading all the posts regarding the Nantucket and it would appear they are now all that easy to do. Since I am a new kid, should I wait until I get more weaving under my belt before undertaking one? Your input would be appreciated. Myra Stutler mylois@prodigy.net @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 78 Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 17:15:09 -0500 From: Winnie Organization: @Home Network Member To: David Collins References: 1 Hi Fellow Weavers, In response to Pat Moritz's question about nailing Nantucket rims have a 2x4 that I place on a very sturdy table and let the end hang over the edge or corner. I put the basket over the end of the 2x4 and use a push pin to make a hole for the pin to be nailed in. Be sure your basket is damp or the spokes (staves) may split. My problem always seems to be keeping the rim round. After a while some of mine lose their nice roundness. I've even tried rewetting the finished basket and putting it inside something round, like a waste basket, and let it dry. If you want spirals on your Nantuckets, Lyn Siler's pattern, Pathways in Reed, will tell you how to achieve it. To keep spacing even on the sides or on the bottom of your basket, I decide on the size space that I need then use a piece of flat reed of that width to measure the spaces and use it as a guide to keep the spaces even. You can adapt this technique for use on any shape basket to keep your spacing even. Hope these ideas help. Winnie Blaz @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 78 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 00:10:55 EST From: Jacobsnl Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) To: davidc@iei.net Lori, With regards to your questions regarding nailing on rims to make a Longaberger Look-alike purse. The person to contact is Jim Rutherford. He works for Royalwood and can be reached there. Jim teaches classes using maple splints with nailed on rims. I was fortunate to take a two-pie basket class from him at the Missouri convention last year. It was all out of maple and the rim was nailed on. You probably know that maple is what Longaberger uses. He will sell you the nails needed. They are a short brass 1/2" nail. To nail them on you need an anvil so that when you hit them into the rim of the basket the nail will turn back on itself and bury into the wood. Hope this helps. If you have a chance to take a class from Jim it is well worth your time. It was interesting for me to learn to use maple and to learn the techniques that go along with it. A very Happy New Year to each of you. May your baskets be filled with blessings for healthy and prosperous 98. Nancy Jacobs, Wichita, KS @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: patterns Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 12:04:55 -0500 From: Lucille and Steven Cote To: "davidc@iei.net" Hi everyone It's nice to hear you all had such a nice holiday. I had something happen the other day and I don't know how I feel about it and hoped you could help. I went to a basket supply shop .This women was also my first teacher so I brought a few baskets to show her I am doing well. We chatted and I looked around the shop and bought supplies. While I was doing this she wrote down the pattern to my BASKET. She never asked ,I finally saw her when she was almost done and asked her what she was doing. She said since I was a student and did her baskets she saw nothing wrong with taking mine. I don't sell many of my baskets and that is by choice, but I didn't feel this is right either. I paid for my classes. She taught baskets of other people patterns she saw in books and some of her own. I feel few patterns are original and all patterns should be shared but shouldn't one ask before just taking it? She sells a lot of baskets and now mine feels less like an original. I know not to show off my baskets now if I don't want the pattern taken but I trusted more before. I usually hear that students steal the teachers pattern but what about the teacher? Bummed out Student @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Weaver's Words Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 21:18:39 -0600 From: Mindy Lower To: davidc@iei.net Hi everyone, Aggh, Christmas vacation is over and its back to teaching. It sure was fun though to spend some extra hours weaving. Joanne, I'm not sure what went wrong with your Nantucket rim, but here is how I do mine. After I've woven the body of the basket, I then use the mold for bending my rims. I soak the rim material first and then bend an outside rim and below it, an inside rim on my mold. I wrap them a couple of times around with masking tape to hold them tight against the rim. You should see my kids disappear when they know I'm bending rims, because I make them help tape while I hold the rim on. I allow a large overlap on the rims (5 to 6 inches). After the rims are dry, I then pin them around the top of the basket and cut them off allowing around a 3inch overlap. I then scarf the edges so they overlap nicely. I clip the rims onto the baskets and glue the overlaps together. After they are dry, I sand the overlapped edges, drill the holes for the E pins, and pin the rim onto the basket. On some of the large ovals, I don't glue the inside rim until I have nailed most of the rim on. This allows me to adjust the inside rim if I need more. It is easy to get the inside rim too small, so be sure to allow lots of overlap so you can adjust as you go. Hope this makes some sense to you. If you have anymore questions, please email me. To Pat: For Nantuckets I use a Dremel Mini Mite drill to drill part way into the rim. I then insert my brass E pin into the hole, hold the outside of the basket rim on top of a piece of steel and pound the inside of the rim lightly with a ball peen hammer. The pin comes right on through. In John McGuire's book on Nantuckets, it shows him using two pieces of rim around the edge of the lid and nailing them together with the staves between them. He had a circular piece of wood with a groove in it which he used to bend the rim so that it would go around the edge of the lid. His book is called-- Basketry: The Nantucket Tradition. Mindy Lower mlower@aeroinc.net www.aeroinc.net/~users/nantucket @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Lash Savers Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:42:38 EST From: AZG JUDY Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) To: davidc@iei.net To Sue: The "Lash Saver" is a stainless steel tool that is curved to help you guide your lashing under the rim. They come in two sizes small $ 6.00 and large $ 8.00. I have just ordered mine from The Mark It Place, 940 W. North Street, P.O. Box 425, Kendallville, IN 46755 phone (219) 347-0242 or fax (219) 347-1092. Happy weaving Judy Sarna Fall River MA AZGJUDY@ aol.com @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Happy New Year Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:07:42 EST From: BJ CRAFTS Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) To: davidc@iei.net Hello to David and everyone on Weaver's Word, It's been many months since I starting reading WW and have enjoyed all the issues. Still have a few more to read to catch up. I live in Enfield, Ct. which borders Mass. Been a member of the Northeast Basketmaker's Guild for several years and read about WW in one of the newsletters. I sell my baskets and other things I make at craft shows. I find it to be the most relaxing thing I make and enjoy teaching my skills to others in my home. I was wondering what prices I should be charging my adult students ? Someone was talking about a basket tree. I bought a wire one from Mathew's Wire along with a couple of hangers and lots of wire handles and wire shapes for baskets. Any one interested: Mathew's Wire Inc. 654 W. Morrison St. Frankfort, In. 46041 1-800-826-9650 Fax# 1-800-600-8269 Email: mwire@iquest.net Their very slow shipping but the prices are good ! Happy weaving and good health to all, BeckyJoy Olko @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ If for any you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.