"Weavers Words" Vol. 1 Iss. 5 Compiled By David Collins Owned By Weavers Everywhere Date Sent: May 13, 1997 Subscribers: 129 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Hi Friends, We have had a great response to list. Please feel free to mention "Weavers Words" in any newsletters, guilds or clubs that you participate in. Any and all weavers may join. The more the merrier. For all of the new subscribers: Simply send in an introduction with any of your experiences or questions. Happy Weaving, David Collins davidc@iei.net @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: nantucket handles Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:06:06 -0500 From: monast@iquest.net To: davidc@iei.net Greetings, I enjoyed your message Norma. I was one who attended the @ meeting at IBA convention. Boy was I amazed when you presented David to us. What an answer to prayer. In spite of the inevitable snags, convention was GREEAATT. What wonderful classes Cherokee Storage (Tressa S.) Triple Interwoven (Joan Moore) and fun little Cedar Bark (Carol Madison). I highly recommend all teachers. To Sally Bower and her May 8th question on Nantucket supplies. I have dabbled with several suppliers and have liked the handles that Scott Gilbert and Beth Hester offer at GH Productions. 1-800-447-7008. They seem to have the right balance and feel to the proportion of the basket. Not too thin. A friend and I took a Nantucket oval class from Martha Lawarence at GH and felt it was the BEST. To Pat Moritz: Was in the Triple Interwoven with you and was amazed at the wonderful basket. I waited until I got home to finish the rim. A most unusual and attractive braid type rim. In fact had to finish three of the four baskets at home. That's all for now. Happy Weaving. Kristin Monastyrski Yorktown Indiana @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Weaver's Words Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:15:13 -0500 From: mlower@mail.isbe.accessus.net To: davidc@iei.net Hello Weavers, Meredith: You'll love Nantucket. We were there for three days last summer and still ran out of time. I have a list of weavers and addresses, if you wish to email me for them. Many of the weavers' shops are outside of the Main Street area. We had bicycles that we used to get around the island. Getting a car over is expensive and difficult, and driving a car in the summertime on the island is very crowded. You will see some beautiful baskets and purses with some of the finest weaving I have ever seen. They are a real inspiration. Enjoy! I plan on going back someday. For those who are looking for Nantucket supplies and shaker supplies, another source is Martha Wetherbee and Nathan Taylor. Their web site is: www.basketshop.com or phone number is 603-286-8927. Mindy Lower @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: LargeLaundry Basket Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 00:43:34 -0400 (EDT) From: WCoehill@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net HI, My name is Christina Coghill, I have been weaving for over 3 years and am very addicted. I recently moved to the Rockford, IL area, so if anyone is close by I would like to hear from them. (I miss all of my old basket buddies) I am also now a stay at home mom. I have 2 sons, age 7 and 11 months old. I worked as a juvenile probation officer prior to my family moving. This staying at home stuff is hard on a soul, when you are not used to it. but at least I am having loads of fun with both boys and am spending so much time with them.. This is in regards to Marie Nerdahl's search for a large laundry basket. I attended the IBA convention and completed a Square laundry basket, by Nancy Carlson. It is very large, 13X13X12 (tope 18X18) with 2 wooden swing handles. It is a nice basket, but I had some problems with the #12 Round Reed rim filler breaking by they handles. I think the basket can be made without handles just have a continuous rim and hand holes (I think that may be the term for them) instead of breaking the rim and having just Round Reed supporting the handles. I plan on making the basket again, (even though it takes about 1 pounds of 7mm weavers!!!!) without handles. I think that it would be easier to rim and possibly stronger.. Nancy's address is Nancy Carlson, 1258 South Drive, Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858. Well, off to bed (after I finish reading the rest of my e-mail.. @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: stuff for weavers words Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 08:38:23 -0500 From: Linda Marshall Organization: High Plains To: davidc@iei.net Greetings fellow basket makers, Held my first class at the farm Saturday - started because its so great to weave outside & look over the hills. Duh, colder than heck & windy, so we had to sit in the kitchen! This springtime weather has got to behave! Avis - GH productions has both of Lyn siler's best books on SALE for the next few weeks. I bought handmade Baskets while in Tennessee at their honeysuckle class last month - used to check it out from my local library constantly & thought I should get my own copy to wear out! Lois - your story about the vendor & the birdhouse sounds sooo frustrating - since you essentially bought the birdhouse, do you have it? If you don't, threaten to take her to small claims court. I'm doing my first craft fair this Saturday & hope I don't end up beside a creature like that. Karen - I don't know how I got to be the first one on the list in the first issue, but I can tell you I was shocked to see that I was! I have a small technique that I just discovered I'd like to share. I like the bean pot basket, but used to have no luck shaping it w/o being lopsided. The last couple I tried, I held it in my lap & wove it facing away from me & it shaped beautifully, not lopsided at all. Now if I could just get the decreasing to go down to the 8-9 inches at the top. I get to 27 rows & it's still 10 inches across. Any hints? In addition to the baskets, I've been really busy with farm stuff. Our farm, High Plains Ostrich Ranch was one of the Ohio ostrich farmers featured this month in The Ostrich News (I'm sure not too many of you subscribe!). We just formed a separate company with 4 other farmers to wholesale market the meat, and were featured on a Columbus OH, TV cooking show. Not too much time left to weave or even to read the list. David, you are a great person to take on this job. I hope it doesn't wear you down! Its great, feeling part of a community again! linda marshall Patriot OH @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" Vol. 1 Iss. 4 Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:14:13 -0400 From: Joanne Jackson To: davidc@iei.net, coltsfan@usa.net References: 1 Hi Avis and all of the other weavers out there in cyber space, You asked about publications. I subscribe to all of them and we advertise our Weave Rite tools in most of them. Basket Bits, Simply Baskets, and Just patterns are three of the publications. If you belong to a state organization , each state publishes a newsletter. To contact Basket Bits the address is: P O Box 8, Loudonville,OH 44842-0008. It is published by Jim Rutherford, who also is a wonderful teacher. Just Patterns 2417 Hancock St, Port Huron, Mi 48060. It is published by Deb Blair she also has a web site.....http://www.justpatterns.com. Simply Baskets, PO Box 824, Snellville, Ga 30278. This one is published by Cathleen Strickland. Hope this helps answer the question many have asked. Back to reading the rest of Weavers Words. Joanne Jackson, Marshall, Mi @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" Vol. 1 Iss. 4 Date: Mon, 12 May 97 11:39:59 EST From: Devon_Branca@mlsonline.com (Devon Branca) Organization: MLS Online To: davidc@iei.net (David Collins) CC: davidc@iei.net, jayna@hey.net (Jayna L. Glemby) Hi Jayna, You can find directions for an Elbow (Heart) basket in Grace Kabel's American Baskets to Weave. Her directions are always very explicit and lengthy, so I think this pattern would fit the bill! :o) Cheri Branca ***MLS Online-An Internet BBS. (www.mlsonline.com) Focus: Family, Business & Education. Voice Support: 716-454-5577 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: GOOD WORK DAVID!! Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 18:20:02 +0000 From: webfoot1@together.net To: davidc@iei.net Hi David, Keep up the good work! My wife Karen Rothmann was a member of Shirley's List. I always enjoyed reading the Digest. My wife is a basketmaker as well as a instructor. To Sally Bower: Try Ron Kovell or Bob Coker for black ash splint. They are both from Michigan. Ron is from Millersburg, Mi. To Andrea Okeefe: Hi! I am originally from Oceanside, NY. and my wife is from Huntington, NY.. We now split our time between Northport, NY and Lake Dunmore, VT. I have friends on Marathon Key. How do you like it there? Hope to see some of you at Stowe this week. Jack Rothmann @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Weavers Words Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 21:49:53 -0700 From: "Lisa A. Mather" Organization: Twig's Country Baskets To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 Hi Everyone, Just thought I'd do a quick post before leaving in the morning for The Stowe Basketry Festival. It will be my 4th year and I can't wait to get there. I'm finally packed and as usual my husband has pointed out that I packed too much, as he helped to carry my suitcase. Can we ever really pack too much?! At Stowe, I will be taking the Willow Shopper. This will be my first big project will willow(Norma, I too, have made the baby rattle with Bonnie Gale...it's a favorite...just wish I could remember how to do it again...) My other two classes are Choice Necklaces and the Birch Bark Purse. I'm really excited! My friend Julie and I are leaving early tomorrow because Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream is on the way...we plan to take the tour and indulge...just doesn't seem right not to stop by:) Jayna: Grace Kabel has a good Elbow Basket pattern. She calls it the Heart Basket( but mentions it's other name, the Elbow) This pattern is in her book,"American Baskets To Weave". I first learned the Elbow from my teacher and used a 4 or 5 inch hoop as the handle instead of making a wrapped handle after the basket was done. The hoop is just inserted as you start the first woven row. It works great! Marie: Hi Girlfriend, glad to see you out here and posting messages! Go, Girl! Well, I said this would be quick...still have a few last minute things to do. I finally got the van shoveled out since spring has sprung in NH, just for today. Happy weaving! Twig Mather Henniker, NH @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" Vol. 1 Iss. 4 Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 22:39:14 -0400 (EDT) From: FDilts@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net Thank you again for the list. I am another one who didn't realize how much I looked for ward to it until it was gone. My name is Melanie Dilts and I live in Milan, IL which is part of the Quad Cities. I have been weaving for 4 1/2 years except that I don't get a lot of time to do so right now since I am working at the local elementary school in 3 different departments. I have a 7 year old daughter and have been married almost 21 years. My favorite baskets are ribbed ones especially working with antlers. Thank you for telling us up front that we can put your address etc in our newsletters for our guilds. I was going to ask about it as I am getting ready to do our next newsletter and I know that everyone will be glad to know you are here. Well gotta go. Hopefully when school is out I can become a certified Basket Case once again. I miss it so much. Melanie Dilts Milan, IL @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Weavers Words Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 20:25:53 -0400 From: "RON JASIUK" To: Hello All, I would like to add my thanks to David for bringing us together again--I've missed the camaraderie. But I'm not certain there's no ulterior motive here--I mean where else could any guy have so many woman anxiously awaiting his every mailing. Showering praise upon him and generally thinking they were the best thing since, well.....seagrass and oak splints?????? And having the guys on the list thinking you're okay is just an added bonus. Seriously though, all your hard work will not be for naught David. You will have our undying devotion and admiration to keep you warm at night.(thank goodness it's summer eh??) I guess I'll do that intro thing first off. I couldn't let poor wee Wanda be the only Canuck on the list so I'll bring the number to ---2. My name is Ann Moum and my husband and our four young kids live just Northwest of Toronto on 15 wooded and meadowed acres. We are both high school Science teachers in a major metropolitan area (Brampton) about 45 minutes south of us. Our home is our retreat and we thoroughly enjoy country living--when our kids get older and need ferrying around we may think differently! I have been weaving for about 6 years now and, like the rest of you addicted. I took my first class--a two pie basket from the woman with whom I paint (yes I also do decorative painting like Char--I recognize her name from a painting list I'm on). Thus far my baskets have been pretty traditional but I'm keen on learning more about baskets using natural materials--suggestions are always welcome. Mary Irvine: Please tell us more about your baskets. I love cedar (one of my son's name is Cedar) and being from Vanvouver originally I'm hopelessly in love with Haida artforms. I'm keen to know more about the baskets you are doing. Char: Where is your subscription of Simply Baskets from??? I'd like to find out more. Do you get a lot out of each issue? Are there patterns in each? Could you please pass on the subscription info. TIA Karen Johnson: I took a class last fall that I'm planning on doing this year as Christmas gifts. A small sleigh (about 25 cm x 10 cm--sorry my imperial measure conversion isn't up to snuff) with wire runners about the thickness of #5 rr. The sides were triple woven, with green and red bands part way up. The top had a rolled border that finished it off nicely. Even the beginners in class had a decent looking sleigh at the end of the day. I found it a bit slow going--having to wait for the newer weavers to catch up, but I ended up helping the teacher out a bit and that was fun too. I filled my sleigh with small blocks of wood of various sizes, I painted different colours and designs then sanded the edges of the block to make them look worn and used jute for 'ribbon'.--Looked great. Well I too may be wearing out my welcome so I'll sign off for today but don';t expect me to stay quiet for too long. So glad to see familiar names back once again. Weave Well and Keep Well ! Ann Moum Orangeville, Ontario Canada rjasiuk@headwaters.com @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Subscribe Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 06:00:45 -0500 From: Theresa Williams To: "'davidc@iei.net'" Thanks to Lynn Pawley, I found out about this new list. I'm so excited, I was worried I would never hear from all you weavers ever again. I'll be brief, been weaving since 1993, took my first class from our honorary IBA president Lori and been weaving ever since. My husband took his first class from her too. He now claims to be the better weaver in the family, and I must admit he is right. But he has never woven the Victorian Laundry Basket, and I have, and as far as I'm concerned, 'you're not an official basket weaver until you've tackled that monster :^) Theresa & Steve Williams Rossville, Indiana twill@netusa1.net @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Miscellaneous Basket Stuff Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 08:48:55 -0400 From: "Larry D. Ridgeway" Organization: none To: davidc@iei.net We're in the midst of construction here with all hell breaking loose on a daily basis. I'm getting a sample of the Nantucket basket wallpaper border, which will probably be nice in the new work room. It will be something to look at when insanity is just a second away! When the addition is done, I'll have a big work room, a roomy bathroom to dye in (using an old kitchen sink and cabinet), and a small room for an office and sewing. That's my contribution to chit-chat. A couple answers/comments re past issues: for Cathy Clontz. Here's a suggestion that was in an old guild (can't remember which) newsletter. Put a bunch of walnuts in a bucket. Pour boiling water over and let steep overnight. Dump in some vinegar. I usually strain the liquid through a coffee filter and store it in the fridge. The originator said she figured that vinegar was used in preserving and it didn't smell horrible. I'm signing up with Meredith for the Nantucket tour!!! A group from HCBG did a tour a number of years ago, staying at a B&B, touring various studios and talking to weavers and a scrimshander. We had a great time and learned a lot: don't use polyurethane on Nantuckets, PVC pipes are great for storing opened cane -- two things that spring to mind at this moment. Unfortunately many of the basketmakers there still use ivory when there are other products what would work just as well. Although it is legally obtained, the practice just continues a demand which would be better forgotten. (My soap box contribution.) Meredith would also be a most congenial host for the tour. Clare Braun asked about a national guild or clearing house. There was an item in the NCBA newsletter several years ago about someone who was thinking about doing such a thing. I saved the item with the intent of writing but haven't done it yet. It would certainly be a great thing, especially for people who publish patterns. With a unique national ID number, they could be in pattern rooms at every convention and not have to recode their patterns. for Sally Bowers re small Nantucket bases. Although he doesn't do handles yet, John Coffman makes beautiful bases and lids using wild cherry, oak, black walnut and exotic woods. Besides plain bases, he turns pedestal bases. He is not on line yet, but his address is: Windswept Creations Route 1, Box 331 Timberville, VA 22853 That's it for now. Have to get some orders done. Ann Ridgeway in Alexandria, VA @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Weavers Words Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:36:28 -0600 From: ANDREA & TOM OKEEFE Organization: SAVANNAH HOUSE To: davidc@iei.net, coltsfan@usa.net Hi David and Everyone, Well I joked about having to move to a bigger house because I can't bear to part with any of the digests - well the jokes on me, because we just put a deposit on a larger house here on the island. We will rent this one to tourists. It's quite popular because it sits directly on the beach. I dread the though of the actual move - yuck! This will cut into my weaving big time until we're settled but I'll have lots more room for my addictions. For Judith Olney - The twill trinket bowls you described sound wonderful. Do you know where I can purchase the pattern? Thanks. Andrea Palm Island, FL @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Weavers Words Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:29:50 -0400 From: "Joy Moody" To: To Lois Keener: What an incredible story about the birdhouse. Seems to me you were more than generous if you paid her full price. Did she then give you the birdhouse? If the paint chip was as small as you describe, I would have offered her a reasonable amount for repair, consistent with common sense over how long it would actually take her husband to repair a minor chip. Ten hours sounds like the amount of time it may take him to make the WHOLE birdhouse. My husband & I used to sell antiques & someone came into our booth & knocked a Victorian lamp off the table. The original, hand painted globe was smashed to smithereens & the ornate brass base was so badly damaged that it couldn't be fixed. As in your case, the go-between refused to get involved. We asked the people to pay us what the lamp cost at auction, just so we could recoup our costs, but we lost any profit we may have made because the lamp could not be put out again for sale. In your lady's case, she appears to have made out just as if she sold the birdhouse on that day and, unless she gave it to you, she will double her profit when she sells it in the NEXT fair. She doesn't sound like an honorable person, and you can't change that. Sounds like you did the best you could to get out of her way as quickly as possible & limit your time & emotional investment in this most unfortunate event. Norma Collins: I have yet to work with waxed linen. Can you tell me something about it? I believe someone mentioned making miniatures out of it? And that it comes in a variety of colors? How think is the highest ply waxed linen in comparison to round reed? Char: I too have defected from the stressful & (in my experience) unethical world of therapy. I am professionally trained as both a clinical counselor & art therapist. I think it says alot for basket makers that I have felt more camaraderie & support since joining these lists than I felt over many years in the mental health field! Basketry is one of the most fulfilling pursuits I've ever found, and it's amazing how quickly it "hooks" us. The deeper satisfactions that arise out of this art can not be compared to the superficiality found in the mental health field at this time. Glad to see Weaver's Words growing so quickly, and many recognizable names being added daily! Joy Moody Sign of the Crow Hampden, Maine @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" Vol. 1 Iss. 4 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:35:34 EDT From: lboylegibson@juno.com (Linda Boyle-Gibson) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 Good Morning from a chilly Southern Indiana! The sun is shining and the birds are singing and my dye pot is simmering. . . MO Convention is only a few weeks away and I'm preparing for that while still unpacking from Indiana. I had to chuckle Lois K, when I read your note about the birdhouse "damage". I hope you got custody of the birdhouse!! Just think how much better you can sleep at night knowing you went above and beyond what was right? This woman will get her "just desserts" someday. I believe what goes around, comes around. Chalk this up to one of those, "too bad some people are so greedy and unethical" lessons and take heart in the fact that you are above those attitudes. A couple years ago at a basket convention when I was taking a class, the student across from me didn't have enough clamps for her rim. The teacher (a friend of mine) asked if she could borrow mine. Not a problem. I'm willing to share and all my tools are marked with my initials. At the end of the class as I'm gathering up my equipment I ask for my clamps back. The student hands me old, rusty ones which clearly are not mine. I tell her this. She responds that they do indeed belong to me and she has no others. I ask her nicely to check her tool box wherein she begins to get snippy and again replies she has no other clamps and the ones she just returned are mine. A few minutes later when she leaves to empty her water I take the opportunity to go look in her tool box --- there on top, with my initials clearly legible are 6 of my jumbo clamps. Wonder what I did? Not a thing. My friend who had come to find me and had witnessed the exchange, urged me to take my clamps out of her box. I just replied that she must need them more than me if she was willing to lie about them two times. I didn't have trouble sleeping that night. . . . Back to the reed! Linda Boyle Gibson 2808 Winston St. Bloomington, In 47401 http://www.alphauniverse.com/inahand/ 812-333-1817 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Laundry Basket Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 15:15:52 -0700 From: "M. Nerdahl" To: To Grace: Thank you for sharing the pattern of the laundry basket, I called and it's on it's way. I know what you mean about flat oval, wonder if it could be substituted with flat reed for spokes? I haven't seen the pattern so I don't know. I anxiously await it's arrival. To Norma: Thank you also for recommending a couple patterns on the Laundry basket. I can't believe helpful you people are. I'll let you know how I make out on the basket. Once again I'm amazed at the generosity of all the people here in Weavers Words, it certainly makes you look forward to the next issue. Thanks so much for allowing me to be a part of it. Marie Nerdahl Epsom NH @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ If for any you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.