"Weavers Words" Vol. 1 Iss. 47 Compiled By David Collins Owned By Weavers Everywhere Date Sent September 16, 1997 Subscribers 306 Back Issues http//www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5998/ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Basket Goddesses Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 18:56:56 -1000 From: The Keener Clan To: davidc@iei.net After receiving the latest edition of the WW, I put aside my weaving and walked around the block twice--and then sat under my plumeria tree for an hour and meditated--hoping to bring my blood pressure back down. I did. I feel that the weavers on this list can have a spirited discussion about any topic and to be honest, when we*re disagreeing, this page is far more interesting than when we aren*t. I think what upset me today was the letter referring to some of the people on the list as Basket Gods/Goddesses and since I was a vocal part of the "pattern wars", I think I was one of those folks the letter was meant for. If you all who have written about "typos" and pattern writers being human and the old "everyone makes a mistake" theory, still have the early edition, then go back and read Cheri Branca*s letter that apparently started this whole tempest. No where did she say she was looking for "perfection"--just a well written pattern with a complete list of supplies and a pattern tested by someone other than your best friend. From that letter, people have decided that those of us who are looking for that in a pattern are "water walkers". We are "demanding" perfection. That, folks, is an assumption....and we all know what happens when you "assume". The letter calling people Gods and Goddesses and insinuating we are walking on water was uncalled for. As the writer said, it made her feel better, but it also hurt a lot of feelings. If she felt the need to write it and get it off her chest, she should have sent it personally to those who she felt "deserved it". This page was not the place for that "explosion". I love this page--I look forward to seeing it come up on my e-mail, and I will continue to subscribe, but I feel it*s time to back off for awhile and not comment. I*m not ready for another slap like the one I just received. Lois Honolulu @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 46 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:05:10 +0900 From: SMSgt Vic & Darleena Jones Organization: USAF, Okinawa, Japan To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 Hello fellow weavers, To Joy Moody: I agree with you. I just got through a pattern that called for a match stick border and it assumed that I knew what that was. Luckily, I had another pattern to refer to or I would have been stuck. The pattern should include directions to complete all steps. To Linda: I'm starting to get busy for the shows and the students are getting fidgity about doing some holiday baskets. The customers asked for the smaller baskets to give as gifts so I guess I'll work on that for the next show. But first... the cornucopia to tackle. To Lori H: Congrats on your basket getting "published". We don't get that mag over here but I'm putting the word out to get a copy from a friend and shopping buddy. Vic will be thrilled to have another country mag around the house. Well, typhoon Oliwa is on it's way and I think I'll work on that cornucopia. We'll be stuck indoors for a whole day at least so I'll have no excuses. Wish me luck as this is a new pattern for me. Gotta finish the laundry first! Be on the look out as there is weaver who's been lurking out there for quite a while! You know who you are. Identify yourself and give us a new subject topic! Please?? The lurker knows that I'm signed.... Darleena from Okinawa @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: general Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:29:18 -0500 From: monast@iquest.net To: davidc@iei.net Greetings Weavers: Just a brief comment. Previous discussion about what others do or do not listen to while weaving. I, too, enjoy Celtic and not to folksy Dulcimer and fiddle. But it seems I am habitually in the throws of Vicki and Clint and Dorian and Mel and Patrick and Bo and everyone elses delimmas on "One Life To Live". If supper isn't calling too loudly I also like Oprah and wonder what her "big announcement" is. To that end I must get ready for a show tomorrow. Being a wonderful Herb Farm, Gathering Baskets go well. My struggle is this - I tend to resist putting too many (if any) do dads on baskets. I personally want the basket to be admired for itself. But ... in the commercial world of selling do they sell better if they have woodsies tied or glued? spanish moss glued under bird houses? etc... Gotta go cut the Sweet Annie- Kristin in Yorktown IN @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: chat's Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 21:21:28 -0400 From: "The Rigterinks" To: Hi Everyone I've just checked both "chat rooms" and found absolutely nothing on either one! Did I get confused as to times and changes or did thing come to a grinding holt do to words spoken recently???? I hope not!!!! We are all intitled to our opinions...no matter what!!! Let's hang together...no matter what. Thank you David, YOU ARE A TRUE GEM! Keep Weaving I look forward to meeting many of you in Grand Rapidss in just over a month!!!! Diane @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Weavers Words Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 22:33:37 -0400 From: Esther Grigsby Organization: The NorEsta Cane & Reed To: davidc@iei.net CC: jja@accn.org ATTENTION: Internet Email Virus Please pay close ATTENTION to this message and let anyone who uses your computer know about the consequences of opening these E-mails. Thursday 11 Sep 1997 08:19:15 +0000 ***********IBM GLOBAL SERVICES******************************** SECURITY CLASSIFICATION: SUBJECT: Warning! 1. WARNING!!!!!!!!! If you receive an e-mail titles "JOIN THE CREW" DO NOT >>>open it! It wil erase EVERYTHING on your hard drive! Send this letter out to as many people you can........this is a new virus and not many people know about it! This information was received this morning from IBM, please share it with anyone that might access the Internet. 2. If anyone recieves mail entitled: "PENPAL GREETINGS!" please delete it WITHOUT reading it!! This is a warning for all Internet users - there is a dangerous virus propagating across the Internet through an e-mail message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!" DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY MESSAGE ENTITLES "PENPAL GREETINGS!" This message appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are interested in a penpal, but by the time you read this letter, it is too late. The "trojan horse" virus will have already infected the boot sector of your hard-drive, destroying all of the data present. It is a self-replicating virus, and once the message is read, it will AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone who's e-mail is present in YOUR mailbox! This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and holds the potential to DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your in box, and who's mail is in their in box and so on. If this virus keeps getting passed, it has the potential to do a great deal of DAMAGE to computer networks worldwide!!!!Please delete the message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!" as soon as you see it! Please pass this along to everyone you know so this can be stopped. 3. WARNING!!!!!!! There is a new virus going around in the last couple of days!!! DO NOT open or even look at any mail that you get that says: "Returned or Unable to Deliver". This virus will attach itself to your computer components and render them useless. Immediately delete any mail items that say this. AOL HAS SAID THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS VIRUS, and there is NO remedy for it at this time. Please be careful. And forward to all your on-line friends A.S.A.P. Don Fiegel Sun Account Manager, Mountain View Sales Office T/L: 585.3039 phone: 415.694.3039; fax: 3096 pager: 800.309.3654 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Weaver's Words Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:09:16 -0400 From: Richard Calvert Organization: Calvert's Wholesale, Inc. To: davidc@iei.net TO: Marty and other GUILTY subjects FROM: The Royal Court of Basket Gods and Goddesses, who strive to move onward and upward toward QUALITY basketmaking, without the need to walk on water. OFF WITH YOUR HEADS!!!!!!!!! @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Questions Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 13:01:02 +0900 From: SMSgt Vic & Darleena Jones Organization: USAF, Okinawa, Japan To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 Dear Fellow Weavers, I have a few questions. I found a ladder back chair that had a seat woven with rush but someone stepped through it and then threw it away. Actually I found it in the pile of rubble that was cleaned out of a building that had had the roof blown off of it during our last typhoon. Now I have a chair that has a removable seat frame to weave on and I haven't started it because I didn't have the time to have to do it over when I mess it up. So, I need your advice on how to get started and which materials to use. It doesn't have the grove in it for the spline that you use with the cane seats. I thought of weaving the seat like a pattern for a stool that I have but haven't tried yet. Suggestions? My second question is... does anyone know of a pattern for a star the size that would go on a Christmas tree? That would be soi cool to have reed stars all over our tree. My weaving buddy, who is still lurking, is looking for the pattern also. Happy weaving. Darleena in Okinawa @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Pictures Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 18:23:37 -0700 From: "Grace and Forrest Davis" To: "Weaver's Words" Hey folks. . . we added some basket pictures to our site (and I discreetly added a photo of Grace). Come by and see us sometime and, if you would, tell me how the photos come thru (I hear some browsers only read "lower case URLs" and I put ours in upper. . . hmm-mm.). Thanks, Forrest -- Grace and Forrest Davis 118 Mills Circle Ft Huachuca, Arizona 85613 (520) 417-9325 lamar@c2i2.com http://www.c2i2.com/~lamar/SimpleThings.html @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Weavers Words Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:01:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Hickeycb@aol.com To: davidc@iei.net I was recently sent the following poem and in light of the latest discussion about patterns, typos, errors, etc., I thought it was an appropriate piece of lightheartedness. I have a spelling checker, It came with my PC; It plainly marks four my revue mistakes I cannot sea. Iv'e run this poem threw it, I'm sure your please to no, Its letter perfect in it's weigh My checker told me sew. Also, to Lucy Cote - regarding the gardening basket you saw on Martha Stewart. At the Washington Guild Retreat this past March we had a class given by Kay Karradine (I think) that was similar. Instead of a wrought iron pole she used a shepard's cane. I didn't personally take that class but I'm sure if you are still interested she could be contacted and could tell you if it is something she came up with or if she has a pattern or what. E-mail me personally and I'll look up how you can contact her. I finally got moved (combining two households) and had the garage sale. Now need to rent the house and get rid of all the left overs from the sale. I'm going to the Oregon Guild Retreat this Thursday - four days to do nothing but eat, sleep and breathe baskets. Oh, joy!!!!!!! Dennis will have to cope with a very chaotic house for a few days. Happy Baskets, Coleen Hickey Yakima, Washington hickeycb@aol.com @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Subject: Re: twill patern Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 06:37:48 -0700 From: Amanda To: davidc@iei.net At 07:33 AM 9/16/97 -0700, you wrote: >>X-POP3-Rcpt: mandy@jupiter >>Return-Path: >>Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:18:08 -0400 >>From: tina@cgiseng4.ci.winston-salem.nc.us (Tina Russell) >>To: mandy@cin.net >>Subject: Re: twill patern >>X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII >> >>I'm having trouble with a twill pattern. "The Bill Collector" >>by Kathy Tessler. The instructions for the 1st row is not clear. >>"Two sides will look like plain weave" does this mean I'm >>suppose to do a plain weave (in/out) on the short sides only. >>The picture does not show that. It shows the twill pattern. >> >>I understand the "shift to the left & shift to the right" >>but my rows don't end correctly. I start my 2nd row "shift to the left" >>taking any pair behind the pervious weaver & drop the spoke on the >>right & add one spoke to the left. I begin this row on the TOP of >>these two spokes & going over 2 / under 2 pattern. When coming around >>to end the 2nd row it does end correctly. I've checked & checked >>& taking it out & started over. I need some clear instructions on this >>basket pattern. Can anyone help? Thanks....Tina >>tina@ci.winston-salem.nc.us @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ If for any you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.