"Weavers Words" Vol. 1 Iss. 100 Compiled By: David Collins Snail Mail: 408 North Devon Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 Owned By: Weavers Everywhere Date Sent: March 12, 1998 Subscribers: 495 Back Issues: http://www.iei.net/~davidc/ Basket Biddin' Auction: http://members.tripod.com/~Basket_Biddin/ (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) ***IMPORTANT INFORMATION*** ***PLEASE READ BEFORE PRINTING*** 1.) Highlight entire issue. 2.) Click copy. 3.) Paste issue into a word processor of your choosing. 4.) Now Print. (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) <>------<> PICTURES SENT IN BY YOU <>------<> 1.) Ms. Brenda Johnson's Vacation Stop At Royalwood. http://www.iei.net/~davidc/basketshop.jpg 2.) Ms. Judy Mullins' Log Cabin Getaway. http://www.iei.net/~davidc/cabin1.jpg 3.) Ms. Joy Moody's Basket Sign. http://www.iei.net/~davidc/medusasignclose.gif 4.) Ms. Sharle Osborne's Cedar Covered Bottles. http://www.iei.net/~davidc/bottles.jpg 5.) Ms. Fran Steidel's Wax Linen Egg Baskets. http://www.iei.net/~davidc/waxlinenegg.jpg If anyone else has a picture, you can send it to me through email or snail mail. (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) Hi Everyone, Can you believe we have been through 100 issues already? WOW!!! Thanks to everyone for making Weaver's Words such a big success. I have left everyone at the address below. http://www.ohmygoodness.com/cgi-bin/g-card.pl?980311DADAGLIAWEPV Take Care & Happy St. Patrick's Day, David O'Collins :-) davidc@iei.net (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) Subject: Weaver's Words Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 18:00:18 -0500 From: Jayna Glemby To: davidc@iei.net Oh Joy, what a question you asked!! What would my dream studio be like...sometimes I don't even dream about it because it probably will never happen, and I hate the temptation...but here goes: Lots of floor to ceiling windows, but at least one regular window with a deep sill so my cat, Molly could sit up there to look out. Beams on the ceiling to hang finished baskets. At least 2 laundry sinks, and large tables for work space. Closets with bi-fold doors that open out (and close when you want to hide your mess!) Lights in the closet...here in MA it is against the building codes to have lights in closets, but you can have battery operated ones. I would like wide deep shelves in the closet for storage bins to hold reed. And poles to hang reed over. One wall of the studio would have pegs to store wooden and wire handles & and a few shelves for basket books, recipes, etc. Stereo speakers for my music and a counter for the tea pot. Comfortable chairs and perhaps 2 rockers, so I could visit when a friend dropped by. A space for staining and painting where I wouldn't care if a mess was made, and central vacuum for clean up. (What the heck if I'm dreaming this much, I'll dream up a maid to clean up!) Now I have a question for you: Do you call instructions: patterns or recipes? Most everyone I know says recipes. I'm wondering if it's a regional thing? Anyone know? I haven't heard from anyone on the Weavers Word that lives in or around Spokane, WA...was looking for basket shops in the area. Will be out there in April to visit my wonderful brother. Someone suggested taking kits along, so I can weave with my great nieces. Great idea, and I have already made up a few kits and mailed them out. Speaking of great ideas, thanks Donna Kallner for sharing your story, and I'm so glad you are well. So many of us never give it a thought when we put our basket tools in the car....have been carrying mine in a tote bag, that doesn't even close! From now on that will change. Oh..Joy, tell me where you are in Maine? Any place near Belfast? We go to visit friends there every summer...it would be good to stop by and see your basket sign in person ! I've had a terrible bout with bronchitis and now have developed asthma, and haven't felt too perky nor felt like being creative, so the Weavers Words has sustained my interest. Usually like winter, but this year with breathing problems, I find myself anxious for spring! We had snow last week that looked like frosting on a cake and melted by mid morning. Bulbs are breaking through the ground and you can hear the geese overhead, travelling north. They sound happy! Jayna in central Massachusetts (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) Subject: Marking Stakes, National Guild, Art/Craft Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 07:23:16 -0500 From: "Ann H. Ridgeway" Organization: AnnCrafted To: David Collins Hello everyone, I'm envious of everyone leaving here for NCBA. We're doing a send-off breakfast with the Northern VA people at Bob Evans in the Potomac Mills area Wed am. I get to wave goodbye and keep Colleen's dogs for a few days. Re marking spokes for students: It's good practice for students, and it is also a good time to teach a few things. One, many weavers mark the stakes with a big, heavy, dark line across the whole stake. Second, many mark every single stake. And maybe third, many people actually measure each piece. This is way too time-consuming! SO, teach the students to find the middle by putting the cut ends together and gently folding, not creasing, in half. Then have them make a barely discernible mark on two stakes only. Use the two marked stakes, one in each direction, as a guide, lining up the rest accordingly. You will have saved preparation and class time. Since I'm a slow weaver, I have to save it wherever possible. Many years ago, in 1994 to be exact, the NCBA newsletter had an item about establishing a national guild. Questionnaires had been sent out to various guilds by University of Oregon. The project then fell to Peg Mayo, Blodgett, Oregon, to carry on. Does anyone have any information on what happened with this? It seems like it would be a great idea. Joy, art or craft is a tough question, and it really comes into play when you are trying to create categories for a judged show. HCBG used to wrestle with that and never did come to any answer. We also had difficulty in defining a basket. Anyone who thinks that is easy should take a look at the artistry of John McQueen! I'm going to make a basket today. It should be one of Diane Langston's arks--the rain continues and continues. Ann sick-of-rain Ridgeway Alexandria, VA (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) Subject: waxed linen Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:34:12, -0500 From: BDKE97B@prodigy.com (MRS BILLIE A DORRIS) To: davidc@iei.net Does anyone know what happened to the wax on waxed linen thread? When I first started using it it had a heavy coating which made it stick to itself which was a blessing when you were just beginning one. But all that I have used lately seems to have very little wax if any at all. I am anxiously awaiting Wednesday when I go to the NC convention. Got really good classes this year but will be much busier than usual. 22 hrs of class for just two classes. That is much above what I usually do, guess I thought I wouldn't get both of them. They are really good classes though and am pleased with bot as they offer new (to me) techniques. Hope everyone's weather isn't quite as bad as this mornings ( Mon. am) weather channel made it look. We just had lots of rain but that is nothing new as this winter is the rainiest in many years. The temps are quite warm however-today in the 70's but that will change later in the week when the cold front comes through. I will probably do a job on all the flowers that are blooming way to early. I already have more weeds in the flower beds than I usually have in June and the backyard definitely needs cutting but the John Deere is at the fixit shop. So no telling how long it will be before we can get it cut and it's still to wet to cut anyway. Hope to see many of you at the convention. If you see a name you recognize be sure to come up and introduce yourself. Billie in wet Virginia Beach (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) Subject: Me again Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:03:52, -0500 From: BDKE97B@prodigy.com (MRS BILLIE A DORRIS) To: davidc@iei.net Had to jump back on and comment on several things in issue 99. I was reading it off line. Bert, Boy you hit the nail right on the head with your description of the word cute. I hate to hear someone say it. There are cute baskets (not in my booth) but I am beginning to think the word is one of the most overused today. Funny how one would not describe a painting as cute but then use it to describe crafts. The first year we did our miniature tree for auction during the set up someone came by and said how cute it was. My friend Joy Smith (does Shaker and Nantuckets primarily) who can be rather feisty at times told them in no uncertain terms that there was nothing cute about it. So we have to watch her when she is out in public as there is no telling what she is likely to say. About changing weavers/colors etc on a ribbed basket. Judy Wilson, a master of colored egg baskets, has you always make all the changes in the same place, even if you are just adding on to a weaver you go back to a certain place to make the changes. This may sound confusing but try it and you will see what I mean. All the ends are neatly trimmed and rest behind a certain rib and form a vertical line on the inside on just one rib. Joy- interesting note about American Indian Artist magazine. The issue we got here was on Apache baskets and it is supposed to be the spring issue/on sale 'til April 30. It too has wonderful articles including some auction prices. Guess we'll have to win the lottery if we want to buy one. About recognizing people at convention. Someone (are you listening Ella Mae) printed red @ on labels and we put them on our name tags. It was interesting to see the questions that you were asked, sort of like they(non-participants) thought we were getting something they weren't. But it did make it easier for everyone to identify each other. Enough for now Billie (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) Subject: Morton's Baskets Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:28:51 -0800 From: cpk3@juno.com (L. Kotarba) To: davidc@iei.net Hi Weavers, I just received the kindest, most sincere thank you note from Barbara Morton (Morton's Baskets). Thanking me for what many of YOU have done by contacting her. Sometimes it's wonderful how things work out, this is one of those times and I want all of you to enjoy knowing that you have lifted Barbara's spirits, after the recent death of her husband, by your calls and kind words. The Chinese Cookie Cooler Basket was a tremendous hit at my basket guild this past week (The Mill Race Basket Guild - Northville, MI). The basket worked-up 'perfectly' and with the legend, it is so unique. I can't wait to see Barbara's new pattern list. Please keep spreading the word about Morton's *unique* historic old style work Baskets! They are real treasures... so is Barbara. Thank you friends, Linda You can contact Barbara at: Morton's Baskets Barbara Morton 1600 NW Willowbrook Dr. Blue Springs, MO 64015 (816) 224-4292 P.S. Barbara says "Thank you from the bottom of my heart for the calls from New England, the Carolina's - Virginia and Florida..." (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) Subject: basket problem Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:26:34 -0500 From: John Miles To: davidc@iei.net Dear David, I really enjoy your Weaver's Words. I am a fairly new weaver - for about a year and a half but I am hooked. I bought a kit for a basket - The Gathering Basket". The handle was a stapled handle and not grooved. After I finished the basket I was really disappointed that it will not sit level. I should have know this was going to happen but I do not have enough experience to look ahead for those things. My question, do you have suggestions as to what I can do with the bottom to make the basket sit level. I know I could hang it but that is really not I want to do. I really enjoy all the info at your website - it has been very helpful. Thanks for all your work (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) Subject: Hello Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:50:58 -0500 From: Ernest C and Julie C Kleinlein To: David Collins References: 1 Dee: Will be in your Thursday class with you look forward to meeting you! See you on Thursday!!! Julie Bert: Not important, but just wanted to let you know, my husband Ernie retired from the Corps of Engineers, about eight years ago. Actually he froze his retirement, because he was to young to retire. That was when we bought our 96 acre farm, and now raise beef cattle. Well anyway, he was a Park Ranger. He was at Lake Hartwell-Hartwell GA, Lake West Point- West Point AL, and then was at Lake Allatonna-Cartersville Ga. He loved his work, but became very tired of working with the public. So we bought the farm, and as he always says " the cows don't talk back". We still have many friend that still work with the corps, I do believe that Ernie does miss it, although I don't think he would admit it! Well need to run . Julie (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) Subject: Re: "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 98 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:36:16 EST From: froggestow@juno.com (Roberta R Comstock) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 "Weavers Words" V. 1 I. 98 David - I'm watching the number of subscribers grow as the WW issue numbers approach 100. It's a true delight to be involved! Thanks again for running the show. Laurie in Pa - I like to make my material changes at the rim and tuck both the starting and finishing ends along the underside of the rim. The first weaver at each end gets tucked into the god's eye. I pack the weavers tightly so the tucked ends don't show. I weave from one god's eye end of the ribs for a while and then turn and work from the other. When using up assorted odds and ends, I divide each remnant in half and work each half from opposite ends of the basket to make them look symmetrical. I tend to use finer weavers near the rib ends and coarser ones in the center, except that I usually go with fine weavers for the filler wedges, regardless of where they fall. Sharle Osborne - Knowing that your covered bottles in the posted photo are that small makes them even more impressive. That's some fine weaving! One of the things I love about twined linen is being able to carry a work-in-progress in a little zipper bag in my coat pocket. Leslie - Thanks for telling us about 'Nature's Miracle' for getting rid of pet odors. Can you tell us who makes it and where to find it? Kathleen - Can you, please, tell us who to contact to get registration information for the "Midwest Natural Basketmaking Seminar" at the Amana Colonies April 25-28? It sounds like a very good thing to know more about. Alice - I agree with you about the art and craft of basketry being inseparable. Well said! Ruthanne Morningstar - The time factor is usually what I apply when deciding how much advance preparation to do for a class. If we have plenty, I let the students do their own measuring and cutting so they will have a better understanding of what it really takes to make a basket. If time is limited, I will go ahead and precut 'kits'. Given a choice, I go for the more time and more involvement option. (Just as in textile weaving, I don't believe the student learns as much from weaving on a pre- warped loom; the warp is, after all, half of the fabric!) Bert in Independence, MO (sunny and bright and one of our coldest days of the winter) (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) Subject: to cut or not to cut Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:52:56 -1000 From: The Keener Clan To: davidc@iei.net Aloha from sunny, breezy Honolulu, I had always wanted to weave a basket, but unfortunately, didn*t live anyplace where classes were offered--until we moved to the Florida panhandle. The local historical museum offered a class in weaving taught by an older gentleman who was spending the winter in Florida--snowbirds, we called them. I signed up for the class, and thanks to a cancellation, I was able to get into the last class of the season. I was given a list of supplies (an explanation would have been great--why did I need a bag of clothespins? why did I need that dangerously sharp awl?), told to bring a lunch (this was an 8 hour class)--and showed up ready to create. The first thing the instructor did was tell me to cut my own spokes. He pointed toward a pile of reed in the corner and told me I*d need 24 spokes 30" long. I*d never seen reed--and frankly had no idea what to do. So I followed what everyone else did and believe me, I was apprehensive about the rest of the day after that. How much easier it would have been if he*d cut the spokes before hand. For my first experience weaving a basket, I did not feel the need to learn absolutely everything. So what do I do for my classes? That all depends. I teach in two totally different environments--private homes and a craft shop. The craft shop requires students to buy their own reed--I supply a piece of 1/4" for lashing, #3 round for twinning, dyed reed--and they are given a sheet of instructions of what to cut, how many spokes, etc. In the 5 years I*ve been teaching there, no one has screwed up that step. Our classes run about 3 hours 15 minutes (we have to be cleaned up and out by 9) and if I had them cut reed at the beginning of class, we might not finish the basket during class. When I go to private homes, I take everything. I*ve found that those big 2 gallon Zip Loc bags were made for basket classes--I can pack everything (except weavers) into that bag needed to weave the basket, including the pattern, a "how to stain" sheet, a RIT dye chart, and a sheet of sources for supplies. Therefore, we can start right at 6pm and I don*t have to wait around for them to cut their own spokes. Several of these students weave on their own and manage to cut their own spokes without supervision...... So it depends on the circumstances--but I don*t think students are missing a thing if their spokes are cut for them. I don*t mark them--I just have them bend one in the middle and use that as a guide for the rest of their spokes--no pencil marks to erase. If students are supposed to experience everything from start to finish in the beginning,are they supposed to dye their own reed, too? I*m recovering from the flu (yuk) and broke another toe yesterday--it*s craft fair week so the stress is building! I committed myself to a leader*s ho*olau*lea for the Girl Scout council (did this in Oct before the date for the fair was published)--and I*m teaching a simple basket (no twining, no lashing simple), holiday crafts, and songs for meetings--while my ever so wonderful lashing husband Richard goes to the center of the island to do a craft fair for the first time alone. Now I know why I keep him around! To all you lucky ladies (and men) who are going to the NC convention, do have a fine time--wish I could be there with you. Lois Honolulu (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) Subject: Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:23:45 -0500 From: Nancy Hedberg To: davidc@iei.net There was an auction recently in Asheville, N.C. There were 2 old Nantuckets there. It was the weekend of my mother-in-law's funeral, so needless to say, I missed it. I really wanted to own one of them. We left bids on both of them. One was signed by Mitchell Ray and the other wasn't signed. I was hoping that no one would notice them since the auction company listed it as being signed "Mitchell". Well, to make a long story longer, the signed one went for $2600 and the other went for $1600. I guess it goes without saying that I am NOT the proud new owner of either. The auctioneer said that they were the 2 least impressive in this woman's collection and if they went well, she was going to auction the others too. It will be interesting to see the others. Thanks to all who expressed concern over the deaths of Archie's mother and sister. It was a help, and I really do appreciate it. Ruthanne: It never occurred to me to get rid of the rubber matting. I could do that, but then what will I do about the cracks in the old flooring. Honestly this building is more than 100 yrs old, and the air shows through! It was a garden shed in it's prior incarnation. We have discussed putting plastic over the dirt underneath (that might also evict the groundhog who enjoys occupancy there). I guess we'll do that as soon as it's warm enough. When I teach, I only teach one person at a time in my shop. I usually have them cut and trim the staves themselves and I supervise. I do turn the base and provide a mold for the basket. I usually provide all the materials that are needed. The last 2 lessons I sold at an auction for Phi Delta Kappa, an fraternity of educators to which I belong. One of the lessons sold for $75 and the other for $80. I was pleased. Bert: I do have electricity in my shop. I run an electric heater while I'm out there, and leave a 100 watt bulb burning all the time. This helps some in the winter, but the summers, even with a fan running are awful. I think I'll try a dehumidifier. The space is only 9x14, less than that if you count workbenches, so I don't have a lot of floor space. I actually use 2 or 3 fans in the summer. One on a workbench, one on the floor, and one on the lathe. Donna: Thank goodness you and your passengers were ok. My son's best friend was killed by a drunk driver a month after H.S. graduation. It leaves one with a rage that can't be gotten over quickly. My dad is always cautioning me to strap down the things I drag home from his house. He says a basket mold could put a real dent in your head! I drive a van, and have no trunk, so I'm always trying to figure out how to tie things down, though I must admit sometimes I get lazy and just pitch things in. I won't anymore. Kay: I've never heard of DRI-Z-AIR Crystals, I wonder where they are sold. Do you suppose the farmer's co-op might have them? I've also had slugs in the summer. AAARGH! Joy: The house next door to us has an outbuilding that I would love to have as a work space. It must be pre-civil war, and made of brick. It once belonged with the house that preceded ours on our lot, but was given to another member of the family. It has about 3 steps down from the door, a brick floor, windows and beams (for hanging reed and baskets?) up high. It must be 20x20. It has a little overhang on the side that is also bricked and would make a great place for a rocking chair. It also has a very large fireplace at one end. No one in town knows what it was. A laundry, an outside kitchen?? My husband says no, we can't buy the house next door, just to have the outbuilding. It makes my little remodeled garden shed look kinda pitiful, even if I do have a little brick patio big enough for a chair. Nancy in Tennessee where it's going to be in the teens tonight. (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) Subject: Interweave News? Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:51:27 EST From: UH60Ace To: davidc@iei.net Hello all! I know a while back there was some talk about the magazine Interweave News. Does anyone out there know if they are still publishing new issues and when the next one is due out? What was the last issue that was published? My email keeps bouncing back. Any info would be appreciated! Melissa in Colorado (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) Subject: looking for..... Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:37:55 -0500 From: Nancy Hedberg To: davidc@iei.net Karen Johnson: I sent you a message tonight and it came back as undeliverable. Has your e-mail changed. Let me know if you got my messages. Nancy in Glen Arm: Are you still out there? I've accidentally deleted your address. I want to hear from you, too. Nancy in frigid Jonesborough (5 yrs ago this week, we had tons of snow and blizzard conditions......I know I was trying to get married and the world was at a standstill) (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) Subject: Creative Space Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:48:13 EST From: froggestow@juno.com (Roberta R Comstock) To: davidc@iei.net References: 1 Joy - IF THERE WERE NO LIMITATIONS, MY CREATIVE SPACE / WORK AREA WOULD be set on 10 acres (or more) of partly wooded land with a spring or creek included. The indoor space would be a south-facing semicircular earth-sheltered structure of about 15 meters in diameter at the outer wall. It would have an open courtyard in the center, accessible from several sets of sliding glass doors with screens. There would be one overhead garage door for moving large things in & out (driveway access). The interior would be zoned for different types of projects. At the overhead door end would be a woodworking & metal shop with two or more workbenches, several stools and an extensive array of hand and power tools. The floor would be hard surfaced and have a drain. A mud sink would be located between the overhead door and the sliding glass door to the courtyard. A 3/4 bath with separate cubicles for the shower, toilet and oversized sink would delineate the transition to a well-ventilated hard-floored space with work tables/counters finished in a nearly-indestructible surface material (as in chemistry labs), utility sinks, floor drain, heat sources and ventilation hood, for sloppy &/or hot projects (basketry, dyeing, felting, painting, ...). The opposite end of the arc would be a carpeted zone (for spinning, sewing, beading, quilting, leatherwork, calligraphy, graphic arts, ...). Work tables, comfortable seating and storage units would be incorporated into each area. The courtyard would extend outward to join a patio/deck laid out to complete the 15-meter circle. Living quarters upstairs would have the kitchen/dining zone, two bedroom suites with separate baths, a great room, a library/study/computer room and a game room. The attached garage would include storage for camping gear and auto shop work area. The grounds would be mostly natural vegetation (minimal mowing), with supplemental plantings to enhance wildlife habitat values and provide basketry materials. Garden space for dye plants, herbs, vegetables and ornamentals would be near the building. Of course, I don't have all the details figures out yet. Meantime, I'm getting along just fine right where I am! Bert in Independence, MO (¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯) If for any you would ever like to cancel your subscription, simply send me a message with "unsubscribe" as your subject.