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From: Goshawk | Posted: 5/4/2002 1:20:40 AM | Message Detail
Is in my sig, I am going to commit that crime sometime soon, and this is the only place I can say it without being stopped...

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E-d-1-(-1-|_|-5... Why not?
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 5/5/2002 2:06:57 PM | Message Detail
*sighs*

Listen, you're only 14, what could be so bad in your life already that would make you want to kill yourself?

Then again.. I did start getting depressions when I was 13 so I won't tell you to snap out of it and appreciate what you have...because there are those of us that have too little to ever believe we'll have a good life, so I understand that you may feel that bad even already.

What do you have now? and what is it you want in the future that you believe will never come?

From: Goshawk | Posted: 5/5/2002 6:46:36 PM | Message Detail
Bah, I'm gonna worry about suicide another day, ask me those questions when I'm not happy... I'm happy now cause I found a good friend...

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E-[)-1-(-1-|_|-5... Why not? Because it's my Birthday, that's why!
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 5/5/2002 7:05:25 PM | Message Detail
Glad to hear that. I'll be around though should you need to talk to someone about anything, especially "it" because death isn't anything to take lightly.
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 5/5/2002 7:09:57 PM | Message Detail
*looks at Goshawk's b-day topic*

I think I can guess who it is you found :P
From: Goshawk | Posted: 5/5/2002 9:32:57 PM | Message Detail
Midnight sun? I'm always on aim whenever I'm on...
BTW Seejaysee is not my name, my aim name is:

Lkal13

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E-[)-1-(-1-|_|-5... Why not?
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 5/6/2002 12:12:13 PM | Message Detail
*adds name to AIM contact list*
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 5/10/2002 11:27:31 AM | Message Detail
*notices Goshawk is never on AIM*
From: Goshawk | Posted: 5/10/2002 11:42:57 PM | Message Detail
Remember, I'm in school during the day, and almost always on
every day after 8 CDT
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E-[)-1-(-1-|_|-5... Why not?
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 5/11/2002 5:38:21 AM | Message Detail
Ah, then you're always on while I'm asleep.
From: Goshawk | Posted: 5/12/2002 2:14:46 AM | Message Detail
What time zone do you happen to live my friend?

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E-[)-1-(-1-|_|-5... Why not?
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 5/12/2002 7:02:51 AM | Message Detail
GMT, 6 hours ahead of GameFAQs time.

I'm in Scotland.
From: Goshawk | Posted: 5/12/2002 9:52:31 PM | Message Detail
So, right now it's 4 in the morning...

If it was 4 o'clock here... it'd be 10 there, try to get on at 10 pm there? I get home from school around 3, I could get on at 4... otherwise e-mail me: Lkal13@aol.com
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E-[)-1-(-1-|_|-5... Why not?
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 5/13/2002 11:34:20 AM | Message Detail
More often than not I'm on between 10pm and midnight, but if I still don't see you on AIM then I'll gladly e-mail ya to see how things are going.
From: Goshawk | Posted: 5/13/2002 10:26:24 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, just e-mail me sometime when you have time...

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E-[)-1-(-1-|_|-5... Why not?
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 5/17/2002 6:56:00 PM | Message Detail
The e-mail in your profile better be right.
From: Goshawk | Posted: 5/17/2002 10:09:52 PM | Message Detail
Nope, it's a fake in my profile...

I told you my real one it's

Lkal13@aol.com
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One time for your mind, your body and your soul, every time that I rhyme y'know I'm in control
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 5/18/2002 4:56:17 AM | Message Detail
To hell with my attention span.

*resends it to the right addy*
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 5/20/2002 1:04:29 AM | Message Detail
Going to be away quite a bit this week, will try to e-mail you when I can.
From: Goshawk | Posted: 5/20/2002 1:54:34 AM | Message Detail
Damn, you weren't on...

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**** off...
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 5/24/2002 5:22:20 PM | Message Detail
Another notice - this time, while I still won't be online much, it's now because life is once again ****.

Advice - never fall in love with someone who doesn't deserve it, who doesn't give a damn about you.
From: Goshawk | Posted: 5/24/2002 11:20:58 PM | Message Detail
*barely knows what MS is talking about*

Sorry, but
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I'm confused
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 5/25/2002 6:35:49 AM | Message Detail
"*barely knows what MS is talking about*"

Women, ma boy... women =P
From: Goshawk | Posted: 5/25/2002 2:59:27 PM | Message Detail
Women are pretty, I like 'em a lot...

Although it's women that cause my depression, knowing none of them like me enough to be my "girlfriend"

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I'm confused
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 5/25/2002 7:23:19 PM | Message Detail
Like I said...you're only 14, you have a lot of years left for a girl to notice you. Here's a thing...

For the first 21 years of my life I went without any girls showing any interest at all in me; not a sign, not a word, not a look. And I don't just mean any of them showing any signs of wanting to be my girlfriend but any interest at all including just being friends.

I feel like I'm running out of time fast...and life has shown itself to be cruel... I fell in love with a girl last year but she is in love with one of her closest online friends. We're friends too, infact she's staying here for a week and is asleep in the next room over, and it kills me to see her forget about me as all she can think about most of the time is him, when she hurts me she doesn't care because all she wants in life is him...at anyone's expense. I ask myself so damn often how I can feel anything for a girl like this, who (and you'll have to take my word for this) is so emotionally and mentally screwed up. She's been here since Monday night and within four days she had been on my computer for a total of 12 hours either talking to other people in irc or waiting for him to show up, said more to them in one night than she had to me in the whole time she's been here. She does a damn good job of making me feel worthless. That's one example of why you shouldn't worry on missing out on what females have to offer. Then again other people find worth in love and relationships so it can't all be cold and cruel.

My view of life, it's purpose, is that people need to experience two things before it ends.

They need to feel love for someone, whether romantically or family or friendship.

They need to feel loved for who they are.

I love people in my family, love two of my friends, and love (though I at times wish I didn't) this girl. Yet I still haven't felt loved, still don't know how it feels for someone to want to be with me. I often think...believe that it'll never happen to me. I don't see any reason why anyone would think enough of me to want me to be with them. I thought I finally found someone who could love me with this girl, for the first 5 months that we were friends she cared about me and herself thought we could be together in the future but what I never knew until two months ago is that she loves and always has loved that friends of her's, she just didn't think he would want to be with her and so she hid her feelings. Then when they finally came out I wanted to fall asleep and not wake up. I felt worthless after all the hope she had given me that we might have something; I felt dead that all I said, thought and felt didn't matter a damn, that my most powerful emotions didn't matter at all. So what am I doing now? Waiting and holding onto a small bit of hope that someone will appear in my life that I love and that loves me.

I used to get depressed a lot and it was usually because I felt like no one noticed me and in truth they still don't. I don't get depressed anymore because I think I just got so used to it that it became easier to forget my worries when there was reason to think about them and get depressed. Does that make sense? Probably not.

Dammit. I've said a lot here but is there anything in here that helps you? I don't think there's anything, you'll soon learn why I'm known to write long e-mails...it's because of my terrible habit of rambling on and on :P

I tell you more, things that might help -

Don't wait and wait for that girl to show up. You'll learn later in life that there are times when it's best for you to go out and find someone instead of feeling down that they haven't found you.

Lastly - and this is the thing you have to remember - you're 14! Wait until you're 21 like me before you let girls be the source of you're depression :P

Now...I know you don't like to say much at once so just say whatever comes to mind and nothing else.

Ack! 1.30am, I meant to just come online to check my e-mails, time I got to bed.
From: Goshawk | Posted: 5/25/2002 10:40:03 PM | Message Detail
That's a lot to read, hold on a sec...

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I'm confused
From: Goshawk | Posted: 5/25/2002 10:53:00 PM | Message Detail
Man, you really can write... a lot, I can write songs (and songs only) when I really feel deeply about my feelings, but otherwise I don't write a lot, usually.

You said the first thing that comes to my mind, well, I know you say not to be depressed about it, but, bah, hell, I'm gonna write a long e-mail...
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 5/28/2002 12:02:59 PM | Message Detail
So much I was looking forward to talking with you about, and now you're gone... dammit. Next time you're online I hope you check this board, e-mail me if you can and I check it often so I hope to see you again.

Strange thing is that you're 14 and your parents seem to expect too much from you too early, but as much as it sucks you just have no choice so see you around.
From: Goshawk | Posted: 5/28/2002 10:25:40 PM | Message Detail
Well... it's all in the e-mail, I'm on a sugar high right now, so I don't know if you are on or what, I barely can stand up let alone think straight, I snorted powdered lime jello. And then ate the rest...

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Rock on...
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 5/29/2002 11:57:15 AM | Message Detail
Hooray for insane boys, fun for all the family.
Been ages since I had a sugar high.

Now you're back for the time being I can reply to the thing you told me about the girl and the dance.
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 6/6/2002 3:40:01 PM | Message Detail
Sorry for not being very talkative recently, been screwed over by a close friend and another close friendship looks like ending. It's hard to get by when the people who you rely on every day to give you something to look forward to just stop caring or hurt you.

How are things with you?
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Oh yes, what is the ZSB? The ZSB is a perverted version of hell, basically. One moment while I chew my weenie... ~ l5Spiders
From: Goshawk | Posted: 6/6/2002 4:09:25 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, many friends have screwed me over many times, but I end up finding one or two better ones, hope that happens with you...

Today I'm very happy.... heres why!!!

1. Tomarrows the last day of school
2. I haven't had homework all week and we get to watch a movie tomarrow all day
3. I've gotten 3 girls phone numbers in the past 5 hours
4. I got a new hat, this hat is awesome!!!!

And I'm happy!!!! I hope that you find some really good friends soon

Hey, you posted that 20 minutes ago, are you on now???
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Member of Event Horizon, If you have ANY problems with it... **** off
From: snowblind | Posted: 6/6/2002 4:26:28 PM | Message Detail
I'm on *is Midnight Sun's other account*. I don't see you on. Sure it's Lkal13?

And yes, I have one close friend left and I've never felt so secure in a friendship. But things can change...though he's a great guy and cares.

3 in 5 hours?!!!?! Argh! Tell me your secret now!
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Yeah, he's a freaking idiot. I don't know how I put up with him.
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 6/21/2002 12:35:27 PM | Message Detail
bump

Want to keep thia around for a bit longer.
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Oh yes, what is the ZSB? The ZSB is a perverted version of hell, basically. One moment while I chew my weenie... ~ l5Spiders
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 6/25/2002 6:14:44 PM | Message Detail
Yo, hey. Weekend was nice, yesterday was nice but today has been screwed.
I'm starting to feel a lot of resentment towards her, and you know why? cause she doesn't give a ****, and she's fine with screwing me over yet she treats everyone else well, and they don't see the side I've seen so she loses nothing, I lose a ****ing lot. It feels like she's messed with my feelings and got away without the slightest bit what she deserves. Bah! I say.
Sorry to rant, but I had to get it out. See you back on AIM soon.
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Oh yes, what is the ZSB? The ZSB is a perverted version of hell, basically. One moment while I chew my weenie... ~ l5Spiders
From: Goshawk | Posted: 6/26/2002 8:46:57 PM | Message Detail
Don't worry about *****ing or moaning. In my world, no one can annoy me with things like that

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"I may be a vet, but I have the popularity of a reg. and the knowledge of a n00b, but I'm not as annoying... or am I..." -Me
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 7/7/2002 11:49:53 AM | Message Detail
Call me sentimental but I'd like to keep this topic around.

Da bump.
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Oh yes, what is the ZSB? The ZSB is a perverted version of hell, basically. One moment while I chew my weenie... ~ l5Spiders
From: Goshawk | Posted: 7/7/2002 9:25:41 PM | Message Detail
*coughbumpzillacough*

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Blada blada blada blada blada blada blada blada blada blada an' gah damnit you little mother trucker if ya got nuthin nice to say then don't say nutin
From: little beelzebub | Posted: 7/7/2002 9:50:50 PM | Message Detail
I just began reading this, so I thought I'd say something. I hate to be harsh midnight sun but give her up. If she doesn't pay attention to you then give her the boot. Stop worrying about it, go out to a bar, ask somebody out, and leave your computer alone for a while. Trust me, if you are confident enough almost any girl will go out with you.
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WHY DOESN'T ANYONE KNOW WHAT MY NAME MEANS!!!!IF ANYONE KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS PUT SO IN YOUR POST WHEN YOU SEE THIS!!!(15 PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN IT RIGHT)
From: Goshawk | Posted: 7/7/2002 10:16:21 PM | Message Detail
Wow, someone actully found it... cool

Beezlebub is aname for satan, I think...

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Blada blada blada blada blada blada blada blada blada blada an' gah damnit you little mother trucker if ya got nuthin nice to say then don't say nutin
From: snowblind | Posted: 7/8/2002 11:31:52 AM | Message Detail
Thank you for what you said there but I've begun (or am trying to) move on. Three weeks ago I said bye to her for the last time and so far there's still some anguish, hard to forget her, even though I know how wrong she was for me. Ah, have to go play Unreal Tournament with a friend right now, back to comment more later.
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Yeah, he's a freaking idiot. I don't know how I put up with him.
From: little beelzebub | Posted: 7/8/2002 12:06:01 PM | Message Detail
It sorta seems like you both need to lighten up a lot. You guys are way too up tight. Ones thinking suicide and the other is worrying about a girl that doesn't deserve the time of day. That's good that your getting over her she's really not that great from what it sounds like. And also don't worry about girls, either of you guys, it'll work out just fine. You just gotta learn to take chances.
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WHY DOESN'T ANYONE KNOW WHAT MY NAME MEANS!!!!IF ANYONE KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS PUT SO IN YOUR POST WHEN YOU SEE THIS!!!(16 PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN IT RIGHT)
From: snowblind | Posted: 7/8/2002 12:30:47 PM | Message Detail
heh, believe us..a lot of what we said early on in this topic no longer applies.

Goshawk, tell him about Kasey.

as for me, yeah I know I'm uptight, have been since around November and that's one thing I'm trying to work on. About taking chances - I might, there's a girl in the same building I work at who I like, the few times I've managed to talk to her I've enjoyed her company a lot. However I'm now cautious about anything where my feelings are concerned and it may be some time before I know what she thinks of me. If only the chances to talk to her were more.

Damn UT game got cut short cause the friend had to run to class. I got slaughtered.
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Yeah, he's a freaking idiot. I don't know how I put up with him.
From: little beelzebub | Posted: 7/8/2002 3:20:37 PM | Message Detail
I'm a little uptight too, feels like I'm always walkin on eggshells. Now that it's summer I've loosened up quite a bit. Sometimes you just have to let the wind carry you along.
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WHY DOESN'T ANYONE KNOW WHAT MY NAME MEANS!!!!IF ANYONE KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS PUT SO IN YOUR POST WHEN YOU SEE THIS!!!(16 PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN IT RIGHT)
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 7/14/2002 9:08:21 AM | Message Detail
Getting back to that point about confidence - I'm very aware of that, the obstacle is that what's happened in the past affects how I view my future and that's what I have to get over to find confidence. I need to put behind me all the crap I've suffered through, however while I'm not exactly looking at life pessimistically I do notice how the longer it goes on the more I lose and the things I have usually end up transferring to less deserving things (okay that's a bit cryptic but to talk about it I'd have to be comfortable with how fate keeps crossing the paths of things I have with the paths of things that aren't deserving). Erm, I'll stop here for fear of frying your brains.
Confidence, yes...I have it at times, then something always comes along to destroy it. Time and time again. Hell even something along that lines has taken effect today.
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Oh yes, what is the ZSB? The ZSB is a perverted version of hell, basically. One moment while I chew my weenie... ~ l5Spiders
From: little beelzebub | Posted: 7/14/2002 11:13:06 AM | Message Detail
But if you actually had confidence you'd realize it doesn't just go away. Many huge things have to happen to break down my confidence. If you see what you want GO AFTER IT!! That my friend will give you confidence.
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Lay out long string to catch the big fish.
From: Midnight sun | Posted: 7/14/2002 11:54:53 AM | Message Detail
If you have something to go after then cool, I have gone after things with confidence in the recent and far past which have always ended up falling through and leaving me with disappointment. Now it looks like there's nothing to fight for anymore, nothing with meaning that isn't shallow at least. Pretty much the only thing that helps is being a little insane at times.

Now...who are you?
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Oh yes, what is the ZSB? The ZSB is a perverted version of hell, basically. One moment while I chew my weenie... ~ l5Spiders
From: little beelzebub | Posted: 7/14/2002 3:04:23 PM | Message Detail
what do you mean by that? The who are you question I mean.
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Lay out long string to catch the big fish.
From: snowblind | Posted: 7/14/2002 3:11:14 PM | Message Detail
Just curious. I don't know, could be that your giving out this advice yet I know nothing about you to take any credence from.
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Yeah, he's a freaking idiot. I don't know how I put up with him.
From: little beelzebub | Posted: 7/14/2002 3:39:25 PM | Message Detail
Oh, well my name's Alex, I'm a dude(if you didn't already catch that). I'm 13 and I live in Missouri. Most people think I'm funny(although not in the mood right now), I'm not dating a chick at the moment although I have thought about asking this one girl out(just never got around to it since I skipped the last day of school). Can't think of anything else.
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Lay out long string to catch the big fish.
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