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"I got my first 16,

Bought it at the 5 and dime

Played it till my fingers bled

Was the summer of '89"

Actually, I got my first ST from Tandy in Dec 1988, but hell...

Getting images back on to the ST is trickier than the Amiga for 3 reasons:

1. Not all ST's had double sided disks drives, whereas most of the ST Menu images you download are double sided. And the PC can only write double sided disks. Check when you buy.

2. ST disks sometimes (often)  went over the standard 80 tracks that a PC floppy drive normally writes.

3. Due to the nature of the way the programmes used to transfer the data back, take control of you floppy drive, it has to be done in pure DOS.

The programmes to use are:

ST Disk : I think this is the best and easiest program to use.

Or

Makedisk : Not as good (IMHO) but sometimes does the odd disk that ST Disk doesn't. Still a great programme.

Get them in the download section.

WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS?

As far as I can tell:

TIPS AND TRICKS

  1. Do these programmes in DOS, not DOS MODE inside Win9x / Win2K / WinNTx / WinXP. The reason is that because ST disk formats are different and usually are a higher capacity than DOS format, the disk drives have to do some strange things. The I/O controls in Windows stop this from happening. Also, even if you manage to force windows to do this, it will be quicker in pure DOS. 

  2. The way I have done it is via a Win98 dos boot disk. In Nero, I created a bootable CD-ROM by copying all my disk images, ST Disk and Makedisk to the root and then using the 98 boot disk when prompted by Nero for how the CD should be booted. This way means that older PC's can be used and gets around the problems of NTFS partitions.

  3. ST Disk and Makedisk only seem to work if you try to image back onto a freshly DOS formatted 720K disk. If you're going to use 1.44mb disks, put some tape over the hole and format using the following command.

           format b: /f:720

Note that it says "b" as when you boot off the CD drive "a" is a virtual memory based drive which the DOS tools are stored in. THIS IS IMPORTANT!!! THE PROGRAMMES DO NOT SEEM TO WORK OTHERWISE, EVEN IF YOU HAVE PREFORMATTED THE DISKS, THEY NEED TO BE DOS FORMATTED DIRECTLY BEFORE WRITING THEM, USING THE ABOVE COMMAND!!! ONLY AFTER THE FORMATTING HAS BEEN COMPLETED, RUN ST DISK / MAKEDISK.

  1. The command for ST Disk is : stdisk b (imagename.st/msa)

  2. The command for Makedisk is : makedisk /write (imagename.st/msa) /drive b: /auto

  3. Sometimes after say the 3rd disk, the formatting will complete and then cough up a "General Failure Reading..." error. Just abort that and the disk should be useable. If it isn't then it's time for a re-boot.

  4. Re-boot after writing every 4 or so disks.

Some disks just don't get written back. You also can't write single sided images back as all PC drives are now double sided.

Stick to those tips and you should be OK.

If you need to know what games are on what menus so you can get your fave games quicker, then go to the games list page, where I have tabulated the major menu suppliers games for easy reference.