MEDICAL PHOENIX PROJECT
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The formulation of the goals of the project in English is bellow and in Polish language is accesible here. #TABLE of Contents is here.
After the article about our goals we present bellow the letters of a participant of so called "omega-mailing list"
As the result we present also a selection of figures stimulating the elaboration of the imaginative model of the reality. This short pictorial "model of everything" :-) is accessible here
The part II (Dejanews) of this set of topics is accessible here
The part III (Dejavu) of this set of topics is accessible here
The part IV (cosmic) of this set of topics is accessible here
Very Important Uncomprehensible Humanoid Problem - (VIUHP)
Metaphor of metaphors leading to the Coherent World Picture (Image, Mental Model of the World)
Behavioural experiments on animals and experiments done on people in some totalitarian countries proved that an absurd and meaningless situations deteriorates the average feeling and health.
So, we decided through the Project: "Medical Phoenix" to monitor the new ideas constituting the contemporain World Picture (outlook of the World) and gather here texts relevant to endeavours making the contemporain "Imagination About the World" consistent, coherent, adjusted with the science, and comprehensible to any graduated people (people who finished high school or probably better a college).
The specialised knowledge of academics and other scientists or sages should be probably rendered by metaphors!
We are thinging about appropriate form of the presentations of the contemporain, coherent Mental Model of the World. Probably we didn't find yet the appropriate formula.
What is possible to do now it is to indicate other web-sites, where somebody try to keep such a model in the form of a book, a tutorial or other "organized set of documents". Therefore we recommend here the following web-sites:
Richard Lubboch
http://www.well.com/user/rcl/fabric.html
Barrow Burron's
"First Principles: A Psychophysical Explanation of Cosmology, Evolution & Consciousness
(http://www.users.co.uk/~maximus/)
Matti Pitkanen
http://blues.helsinki.fi/~matpitka/
Jack Sarfatti
http://www.hia.com/pcr/gmbold.htm
We encourage to indicate or sent to us data about records of other consistent, coherent, world pictures. We will consider and link them here, to this web-site!
We are interested mostly in the popular books, but adjusted carefully with the contemporain science (and accessible on-line in the Web). We are interested also in interesting novels (!!!), which present one of "Very Important Uncomprehensible Humanoid Problem". An example could be the novel of John Updike: "Rogers Version", but again we emphasise we are interested in the novels accessible already now on-line in the Web.
In fact we look for 50 best novels of this kinds, which explain existential problems and yet for other 50 best novels which "pump" optimism to the minds of people suffering by misunderstanding of common existential dilemma, and lack of sufficient spiritual supply (adjusted with science). Somebody could ask! Yes, but why you find that an additional action is necessary! There are thousands of books printed and gathered in thousands of libraries in all the World.
I will trial therefore to indicate why the action foreseen by "Medical Phoenix" seems justified:
1. After Albert Einstein we are used to imagine yourself as creatures living on the 3rd planet of a Copernican solar system put into 4D sphere of the time-space.
The biological sciences maintained simultaneously that the living creatures emerged as a result of a random, "blind" Darwinian evolution; acting on the basis of random mutations and so called selection during the fight for survival.
Yet, during all the XX century the most important existential dilemma were considered only by the theologians (religion) and some philosophers whose statements the their "stories" (legends)are had no relation to the science. As we know, the source of the content of these "stories" (legends) so called "revelations".
2. After Frank Tipler (and also John Barrow - as co-author of the Anthropic Principle) we returned to the situation when the religious concepts could be adjusted to the science especially to the physics.
It is worthy to emphasise that in the Antiquity and in the medieval centuries the content of so called "revelations" was also co-ortinated with the science of this times.
However F. Tipler doesn't like "aliens" and doesn't consider such FAQ like UFO phenomena, para-psychical abilities, e.g. precognitive remote viewing, telepathy or even simple C. Jung - W. Pauli's "synchronicity" of happenings.
Tipler doesn't believe in other forms of reincarnation or resurrection apart of his "emulation project " of the far future.
Moreover as we know, recent data about explosion of the "supernovae" stars and other considerations of the cosmological repulsive force impair the indispensable condition for his scenario, it mean of so called collapsing "closed" feature of the Universe.
3. After the publication of David Deutsch's book people are forced to consider seriously the many world theory. His concept of Multiverse composed from different universes - snapshot's arises however from a particular interpretation of the quantum physics.
Probably more concreate is the M. Pittkanen's model of "multi-sheeted-space". According to him one "sheet" for instance other neighbouring Universe could collapse.
4. The concept of Multivers or "multi-sheeted universe" recreates again the possibility of "omega-point" abilities.
"Exodus" of people to a collapsing universe or to a particular collapsing sheet of the Multivers could be again possible!
Moreover some stories, taken from the religious "revelations" (or arised from information put to our heads through the genome) could be co-ordinated again with the physics.
The multi-sheeted Universe could explain how and from where the metallic UFO came and where is the source of such uncontestable phenomena like the happenings in Fatima and in some other places of religion cults.
The "Jahwe team" activity, described so vividly in the Old Testament could be also explained as a visit from another "sheet" (snapshot?). Unfortunately none of inventors of the Multivers is "multi-sheed Universe want to consider and to link his physical theory with religious concept. Thus, people rest with their "isolated religious concepts", which become less and less convincing!!
5. Moreover the most important human problems are related to the phenomena of: pain, pleasure, satisfaction, emotions, frustration, meaning of one-self; it means are related to such notions as: consciousness, soul, the destiny after death!
Yet, in time of A. Einstein the topic of consciousness and soul was not considered by science. It was still left to the religion.
Frank Tipler said that the human soul it is a "computer-like program" running on a "computer - like brain". It is obviously an over-simplification!
6. Jack Sarfatti, Matti Pitkanen and Baron Burrow try to explain the phenomenon of consciousness by new physical and cultural terms!
Jack Sarfatti maintain that the consciousness is based on phenomena of so called post-quantum physics. He maintains that any sentience is set by a non-algorthismic process which can be found in the microtubules of any biological organisms.
He believe that this new kind of physical phenomena relies on the properties of "post-quantum super conducting, superfluid", which was in the beginning of our Universe.
The same "superfluid" in the form of frozen, superconducting "Helium mass" according to J Sarfatti exerts the new discovered recently and recognised "cosmological propulsive force", ejecting the galaxies of our Universe outside.
He believes that this miraculous "superfluid" is present also inside of microtubules of the neurones of our brain. The Sarfatti's superfluid is simultaneously: the elementary mind, the Mind of God, and the substance of our souls.
Sarfatti is speaking rare about DNA molecules, he prefer microtubules.
He is interested however in UFO phenomena, especially since the book of Colonel Phillip Corso, the paper of Mondanese and the book of NASA engineer Paul Hill. He is speaking often about travels to another worlds, in the sense of the D. Deutsch Multivers (he is against M. Pittkanen's "multi-sheeted universe"). Jack Sarfatti is interested rather in the matter "how to escape from this particular Universe (our Universe)" or how some "alien visits" are realised by means of "Unconventional Flying Objects". Yes, it would be good to find finally the seat of our soul, but here Jack Sarfatti make "a stop". He doesn't want to consider the most important human problems, it means their fear toward death, the eventual "technology of the souls circulation or retrieval". He refuse also to consider the higher levels of the organisation of our Universe "here and now".
7. We think that "the model of everything" should consider the thesis that our huge, immense Universe has a specific organism. It is like an "animal". His functioning deserves attention too. For instance the planetary imprinting of anybody of us is a real and known phenomenon. The geophysical influences on human organism forced physicians the first time to look at the human organism from other point then mechanical and chemical.
We presented this realm of knowledge in the on-line book accesible http://salve.slam.katowice.pl/KSISTORM.htm (unfortunately the book is in Polish, however we will present the file of data in English also.A part of trxts in English concering the influence of geophysical factors on the human organism is accesible at "Phenomena Research Journal" http://salve.slam.katowice.pl/phenomen.html
The text of the book "You are immortal-the thesis and discussion of physicists, biologists and physicians on Anthropic Principle" published on 1990 is accesible at http://salve.slam.katowice.pl/Immortal.html
Andrzej Brodziak
#From Andrzej Brodziak A new suplement to the metaphore of metaphores.
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 02:00:41 +0100 (BST)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 00:23:24 +0100 (BST)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 13:03:42 +0300 (EET DST)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 12:49:18 +0100 (BST)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:49:57 +0300 (EET DST)
#The holy spirit and the God existing periodically
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:32:12 +0200
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#From Andrzej Brodziak - first letter About my book, published already on 1990: “You are immortal the thesis and discussion...”
#How to implement the self-awareness in robots.
Date:Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:02:30 + 0100
#DNA genes as channels from _Plato ideas_ and and _archetypes_
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 14:50:47 +0100
#Geomagnetic storm and netiquette issue
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 14:43:42 +0100
#How old resurrected people are?
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 09:13:17 +0100
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:57:14 +0100
#Soul and the 12-n dimensional model of everything
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:28:35 +0100
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:44:10 +0100
#Space travel, but by Melchizedek's technology
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:16:02 +0100
#Spirit or a soul of a person.Plato-Pitkanen's traveling model of the soul.
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:23:56 +0100
#The theory of love as a scientific topic important for O.P.T.?
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:44:13 +0100
#The memory as a chanel for the transfer in the dimension of time
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 17:16:56 +0100
#Synopsis of TGD for biologist and neurologist ?
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 17:25:46 +0100
#Quantum physics , astrophysics and UFO phenomena
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:40:23 +0100
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:40:54 +0100
#Time stamp of our univers in the multivers
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:28:18 +0100
#Biosphere is kaput-about 2050-Tipler's anticipation.
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 13:47:54 +0100
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 17:35:39 +0100
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 09:51:53 +1100
#Retro-viruses,memes and Jungian archetypes
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 16:33:32 +0100
#Apart of _ Transcapacitor_ the _ EquiMeRec_ is also an _ extraterrestrial_chip.
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:19:06 +0100
#Alive but not sentient virus ,micro-sentient microbs and the man with self-awarness
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:40:56 +0100
#Re. Re. Apart of the _Transcapacitor_, the _EquiMeRec_ is also an_extraterrestial_ chip
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:16:44 +0100
#UFO/SAR-crafts and NMR tomograph
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 16:30:54 +0100
#ET or ED uncanny encounters of III
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 14:37:31 +0100
#Memetic engineering we are doing
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 10:59:11 +0100
#Re.Re.:ET or ED uncanny encounters of III degree
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 14:43:12 +0100
#Emitting navel-string-Canadian Connection
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 17:27:11 +0100
#Implants (Q-chips) in the human brain and K.R. Jamison_s UBO
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:08:30 +0100
#Microtubules,back propagation ,EEG and Giant Q*
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 17:57:52 +0100
#Re: Microtubules,back propagation ,EEG and Giant Q*
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 08:32:20 +0200 (EET)
#The collapsing Deutsch_s snapshot (Q) is it back - propagating into our open Universe (B)?
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:54:04 +0100
#The ordered water in microtubules of pilot's brain of UFO/SAR crafts
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:26:14 +0100
#Is it possible to grasp Q* in mathematical(scientific) terms?
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:34:57 +0100
#How propellent force derived from comological constant is related to Q* and _computing
gelatin_ (NMR model) of microtubules?
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:05:39 +0100
#The bending of space- time in microtubules
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:13:32 +0100
#Re: The bending of space- time in microtubules
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:06:10 +0200 (EET)
#Re: The bending of space- time in microtubules
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:19:25 GMT
#Re: The bending of space- time in microtubules
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:57:21 -0800
#Re: The bending of space- time in microtubules
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:28:58 +0200 (EET)
#Re: The bending of space- time in microtubules
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:29:27 +0200 (EET)
#Omegon or exodus into collapsing snapshot of the Multivers
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:55:26 +0100
#RE: Omegon or exodus into collapsing snapshot of the Multivers
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:51:47 +0900
#Collaps of multi-sheeted time-space for O.P.-is it possible?
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 13:55:18 +0200
#Re: Collaps of multi-sheeted time-space for O.P.-is it possible?
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 08:45:13 +0300 (EET DST)
#Re2: Collaps of multi-sheeted time-space for O.P.-is it possible?
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 21:59:43 -0800
#Re3: Collaps of multi-sheeted time-space for O.P.-is it possible?
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:42:45 +0100 (BST)
#Re.:Coherent Cultural World-Picture for 2001 AD
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 18:39:20 +0200
#Re: Re.:Coherent Cultural World-Picture for 2001 AD
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 22:53:58 +0100 (BST)
#Re: Re1:Coherent Cultural World-Picture for 2001 AD
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 15:49:33 -0700
#Re: Re3.:Coherent Cultural World-Picture for 2001 AD
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:51:58 +0300 (EET DST)
#Limits of Science ,the Science of limits and the coherent Cultural World-Picture for 2001 AD
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:30:37 +0200
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:31:34 +0200
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 15:42:40 +0200
#Re: Working configuration space
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 10:41:14 -0400
#Re: Working configuration space
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 12:10:27 -0700
#The shape of a though of a dowser
Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 12:58:26 +0200
#Dead in this universe - born in another
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:25:16 +0200
#Subject: Re: [FOR] Dead in this universe - born in in another (version FOR)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:49:31 -0700
#Super beings from other worlds or multi - sheeted time space or as results of "working configuration space".
#Re: Super-beings, the psychology and the physics of the word "to believe"
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 06:31:23 -0700
#Subject: Seth -the first superbeing-proposed by B.Carter-part 1
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:39:29 +0200
#Subject: Re: Super-beings, the psychology and the physics of the word"to believe"
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 06:31:23 -0700
#Subject: Re: Seth -the first superbeing-proposed by B.Carter-part 1
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:17:14 -0500
#Subject: Re: Seth -the first superbeing-proposed by B.Carter-part 1
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 19:42:31 -0500
#BIG BANG -an Alpha being-i.e the Word memorized by the Bose-Einstein condensate, edited from
Hilbert space
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:20:25 +0200
#Subject: Re: BIG BANG -an Alpha being-i.e the Word memorized by the Bose-Einstein condensate, edited from
Hilbert space
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:51:04 -0500
#Subject: Re: BIG BANG -an Alpha being-i.e the Word memorized by thw Bose-Einstein condensate, edited from
Hilbert space
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 23:29:17 -0700
#The programming of theWord - Why the human self- awareness is necessary also in the Open Universe?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:40:24 +0200
#Re: The programming of the Word - Why the human self- awareness is necessary also in the Open
Universe?
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:12:50 +0100 (BST)
Re#The programming of the Word -2 - Why the human self- awareness is necessary also in the Open
Universe?
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:50:48 +0100 (BST)
#Subject: Re: Re.Re.:The programming of the Word - Why the human self- awareness is necessary also in the
Open Universe?
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 20:22:28 +0300 (EET DST)
Letters sent to "sci.physics..." are accesible here
A new suplement to the metaphor of metaphores is accessible here
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Subject: Re: Metaphor of metaphors
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:33:15 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Matti Pitkanen <matpitka@pcu.helsinki.fi>
Reply-To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
CC: sarfatii@well.com, "physics@intuition.org" <physics@intuition.org>
On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Czytelnia wrote:
> >From Andrzej Brodziak
> I am sending the following text, but it is also at
> http://www.slam.katowice.pl/~klin5chw/PhoenixA.html
>
> Very Important Uncomprehensible Humanoid Problem - VIUHP
> Metaphor of metaphors leading to the Coherent World Picture
> (Image, Mental Model of the World)
SNIP
Thus people rest with their "isolated religious concepts", which become
> less and less convincing!!
Most importantly: many-sheetedness explains why we experience our
body as separate from the external world. External world is
really separate spacetime sheet in GEOMETRICAL sense (something
very different from Deutch's multiverse): this is
why we experience it only indirectly.
Direct subjective experience gives justification for the hypothesis of
many-sheeted spacetime emerging from extremely abstract mathematical
construction! This is something which one should ponder for longer than
it takes time to read this sentence. Personally, I remember that
this discovery put thrills to wander along my spine for several weeks.
MP
> 5. Moreover the most important human problems are related to the
> phenomena of: pain, pleasure, satisfaction, emotions, frustration,
> meaning of one-self; it means are related to such notions as:
> consciousness, soul, the destiny after death!
Subject: Re: Metaphor of metaphors
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 00:23:24 +0100 (BST)
From: maximus@dircon.co.uk (Barron Burrow)
Reply-To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
CC: Jack Sarfatti <sarfatti@well.com>
SNIP
specialised knowledge of
>academics and other scientists or sages should be probably rendered by
>metaphors!
Fact or metaphor?
The reason that Einstein said "God does not play dice" is that he realised
that 'Whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad'. In other words,
once you accept that complementarity is all there is, it means that all you
are left with is 50/50 probabilities. And if you start with 1,0 and then
identify with the wrong bit out of these two, you will be in a moral -- and
intellectual -- wilderness. For example, you might finish up believing in
time travel just because the math tells you so: you lose your reason ...
forget to take account of the Grandfather paradox, for instance. No logos.
Whom the gods with to destroy ...
But if you start from a psychophysical position, then you believe that
qualia are there from the beginning ... and cannot be inserted later on, by
hand. If so, we live in a teleological universe. And "God does not play
dice".
BB
>We are thinging about appropriate form of the presentations of the
>contemporain, coherent Mental Model of the World. Probably we didn't
>find yet the appropriate formula. What is possible to do now it is to
>indicate other web-sites, where somebody try to keep such a model in the
>form of a book, a tutorial or other "organized set of documents".
>Therefore we recommend here the following web-sites:
Subject: Re: Metaphor of metaphors
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 02:00:41 +0100 (BST)
From: maximus@dircon.co.uk (Barron Burrow)
Reply-To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
CC: sarfatii@well.com, "physics@intuition.org" <physics@intuition.org>
Matti Pitkanen wrote (Fri, 17 Apr 1998):
>
>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Czytelnia wrote:
>
>> >From Andrzej Brodziak
>> I am sending the following text, but it is also at
>> http://www.slam.katowice.pl/~klin5chw/PhoenixA.html
SNIP
>> Thus people rest with their "isolated religious concepts", which become
>> less and less convincing!!
>
>Most importantly: many-sheetedness explains why we experience our body as
separate from the external world. External world is really separate
spacetime sheet in GEOMETRICAL sense (something very different from Deutch's
multiverse): this is why we experience it only indirectly.
>
>Direct subjective experience gives justification for the hypothesis of
many-sheeted spacetime emerging from extremely abstract mathematical
construction! This is something which one should ponder for longer than it
takes time to read this sentence. Personally, I remember that this
discovery put thrills to wander along my spine for several weeks.
>
In TGD, it is the most 'alert' subsystem that makes the jump to
consciousness. But to consciousness of what? It must be in relationship
*to* something (rather than in vacuo). So, say the first momemt of cs. in
infancy is in relation to the cosmos; in an epiphany that collapses the wave
function on the universe. What then, if we share the 'observer' mode with
God? :-) It is a profound question.
You, as the neonate, would feel both joyful and scared! Existentially
terrified! Filled with 'nameless dread'. No wonder you cry a fair amount
of the time, you poor boy :-) ... But in the background there is always the
memory of that first epiphany at birth: A discovery that would set thrills
running down your spine for weeks, months ... But gradually buried under the
pressure of "reality". Until the law of the survival of the fittest takes
over, and eventually you, the growing child, feel compelled to OBEY the
reality-principle, now both 'in here' and 'out there'. Basically the law
laid down by the mother and/or the father.
And thus the epiphany, the moment of gravitational imprinting by the
immediate solar system that had been FELT by you at birth, gradually gets
buried even more under quantum subhistories which give the impression --
increasingly the FALSE impression! -- that they are the most alert. "False"
because they cause you, as a biosystem, to feel "out of touch". And when
one is out of touch it can begin to make one ill; physically and/or mentally.
In physics, some talk about a true and a false vacuum. I'm just making the
point that Homo sapiens sapiens is the species that is not very good at
distinguishing between which is the truly and which the "falsely" alert
quantum subsystem(s). Here bimodal-psychoanalysis can assist (because
ideally it lends insight -- even down to the level of helping one to
properly differentiate between left and right at a *physical* level). When
one realises that the way up is the way down, too, then learning how to get
all this "right" can make all the difference.
BB
>MP
>
>> 5. Moreover the most important human problems are related to the
>> phenomena of: pain, pleasure, satisfaction, emotions, frustration,
>> meaning of one-self; it means are related to such notions as:
>> consciousness, soul, the destiny after death!
>
Subject: Re: Metaphor of metaphors
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 13:03:42 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Matti Pitkanen <matpitka@pcu.helsinki.fi>
Reply-To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
CC: sarfatti@well.com, "physics@intuition.org" <physics@intuition.org>
On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Barron Burrow wrote:
> Matti Pitkanen wrote (Fri, 17 Apr 1998):
>
> >
> >On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Czytelnia wrote:
> >
> >> >From Andrzej Brodziak
> >> I am sending the following text, but it is also at
> >> http://www.slam.katowice.pl/~klin5chw/PhoenixA.html
SNIP
> >> Thus people rest with their "isolated religious concepts", which become
> >> less and less convincing!!
> >
> >Most importantly: many-sheetedness explains why we experience our body as
> separate from the external world. External world is really separate
> spacetime sheet in GEOMETRICAL sense (something very different from Deutch's
> multiverse): this is why we experience it only indirectly.
> >
> >Direct subjective experience gives justification for the hypothesis of
> many-sheeted spacetime emerging from extremely abstract mathematical
> construction! This is something which one should ponder for longer than it
> takes time to read this sentence. Personally, I remember that this
> discovery put thrills to wander along my spine for several weeks.
> >
>
> In TGD, it is the most 'alert' subsystem that makes the jump to
> consciousness.
Actually not to. Jump itself IS the moment of cs.
I hear Your counterarguing that one should talk about periods
of cs rather than moments. The model of the soul as p-adic entropy=0
system, shows that one can get quite near to this concept about
consciousness in TGD framework. System able to participate to a series of
subsequent quantum jumps, rather than jump now and then, might
be said to possess a soul.
>But to consciousness of what? It must be in relationship
> *to* something (rather than in vacuo).
The contents of cs are somehow determined by the initial and final states
in quantum jump. Not much more can be said on general grounds and the
rest is experimental science.
So, say the first momemt of cs. in
> infancy is in relation to the cosmos; in an epiphany that collapses the wave
> function on the universe. What then, if we share the 'observer' mode with
> God? :-) It is a profound question.
Perhaps simplests picture is that only these moments of cs exist
subjectively. This is maximal economy of concepts.
All essential about God is captured since quantum jumps are acts of free
will also. If one wants to call it God, ok.
>
> You, as the neonate, would feel both joyful and scared! Existentially
> terrified! Filled with 'nameless dread'. No wonder you cry a fair amount
> of the time, you poor boy :-) ... But in the background there is always the
> memory of that first epiphany at birth: A discovery that would set thrills
> running down your spine for weeks, months ... But gradually buried under the
> pressure of "reality". Until the law of the survival of the fittest takes
> over, and eventually you, the growing child, feel compelled to OBEY the
> reality-principle, now both 'in here' and 'out there'. Basically the law
> laid down by the mother and/or the father.
>
> And thus the epiphany, the moment of gravitational imprinting by the
> immediate solar system that had been FELT by you at birth, gradually gets
> buried even more under quantum subhistories which give the impression --
> increasingly the FALSE impression! -- that they are the most alert. "False"
> because they cause you, as a biosystem, to feel "out of touch". And when
> one is out of touch it can begin to make one ill; physically and/or mentally.
>
> In physics, some talk about a true and a false vacuum.
How to define 'false' in quantum physics terms, is
interesting problem. What about following? We construct representations
of the external world: at these almost empty spacetime sheet
in weak interaction with the 'real' external world via wormhole contacts.
This representation is false in some respects if it does not give
faithful representation of the external world? A more abstract
manner to be 'false' is that some abstraction, 'law of physics', form
as representation of represention of ...of external world fails to
be faitful.
MP
> I'm just making the
> point that Homo sapiens sapiens is the species that is not very good at
> distinguishing between which is the truly and which the "falsely" alert
> quantum subsystem(s). Here bimodal-psychoanalysis can assist (because
> ideally it lends insight -- even down to the level of helping one to
> properly differentiate between left and right at a *physical* level). When
> one realises that the way up is the way down, too, then learning how to get
> all this "right" can make all the difference.
>
>
> BB
>
>
> >MP
> >
> >> 5. Moreover the most important human problems are related to the
> >> phenomena of: pain, pleasure, satisfaction, emotions, frustration,
> >> meaning of one-self; it means are related to such notions as:
> >> consciousness, soul, the destiny after death!
> >
>
>
Subject: Re: Metaphor of metaphors
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 12:49:18 +0100 (BST)
From: maximus@dircon.co.uk (Barron Burrow)
Reply-To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
Matti Pitkanen wrote (Sat, 18 Apr 1998):
>
>On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Barron Burrow wrote:
>
>> Matti Pitkanen wrote (Fri, 17 Apr 1998):
>>
>> >
>> >On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Czytelnia wrote:
>> >
>> >> >From Andrzej Brodziak
>> >> I am sending the following text, but it is also at
>> >> http://www.slam.katowice.pl/~klin5chw/PhoenixA.html
SNIP
So we decided
>> >> through the Project: "Medical Phoenix" to monitor the new ideas
>> >> constituting the contemporain World Picture (outlook of the World) and
>> >> gather here texts relevant to endeavours making the contemporain
>> >> "Imagination About the World" consistent, coherent, adjusted with the
>> >> science, and comprehensible to
It is an admirable project -- someone should say so! :-) Have had a look at
your NADCHODZI SZTORM S£ONECZNY. Your own list of publications seems quite
amazing.
any graduated people (people who finished
>> >> high shod or probably better a college). The specialised knowledge of>> >> the novel of John Updike: "Rogers Version",
Hmmm. I have novels (!!!). Don't know this particular one by Updike.
Recall reading in one of his a remark to the effect that "Freud is like a
god". 'Rabbit'? 'Couples'? (Also remember the apophthegm: "To err is
human, to be blown divine" :-)
but again we emphasise we
>> >> are interested in the novels accessible already now on-line in the Web.>> >> Thus people rest with their "isolated religious concepts", which become
>> >> less and less convincing!!
Yes, I understand your reasoning, and very much agree with all this myself.
>> >
>> >Most importantly: many-sheetedness explains why we experience our body as
>> separate from the external world. External world is really separate
>> spacetime sheet in GEOMETRICAL sense (something very different from Deutch's
>> multiverse): this is why we experience it only indirectly.
>> >
>> >Direct subjective experience gives justification for the hypothesis of
>> many-sheeted spacetime emerging from extremely abstract mathematical
>> construction! This is something which one should ponder for longer than it
>> takes time to read this sentence. Personally, I remember that this
>> discovery put thrills to wander along my spine for several weeks.
>> >
>>
>> In TGD, it is the most 'alert' subsystem that makes the jump to
>> consciousness.
>
>
>Actually not to. Jump itself IS the moment of cs.
I wondered if it MIGHT be as you're saying here. But since one tends to
employ cs. to see an object, say, ana apple or an orange, does that imply
that at a 'hidden' level one is apprehending the whole universe in that
object? (For example, William Blake speaks of seeing "Infinity in a grain
of sand".)
>I hear Your counterarguing that one should talk about periods
>of cs rather than moments.
Moments or periods works quite fine for me.
>The model of the soul as p-adic entropy=0
>system, shows that one can get quite near to this concept about
>consciousness in TGD framework. System able to participate to a series of
>subsequent quantum jumps, rather than jump now and then, might
>be said to possess a soul.
>
Yes, the interesting thing is what caused the initial jump, I guess.
Because once life got started, it certainly did not wish to give up without
a fight. And if qualia are there from the outset that suggests, to me, that
the universe is created from a living-hologram principle (the whole in the
part and the part in the whole -- that wld work p-adically, wouldn't it?)
>
>>But to consciousness of what? It must be in relationship
>> *to* something (rather than in vacuo).
>
>The contents of cs are somehow determined by the initial and final states
>in quantum jump. Not much more can be said on general grounds and the
>rest is experimental science.
>
> So, say the first momemt of cs. in
>> infancy is in relation to the cosmos; in an epiphany that collapses the wave
>> function on the universe. What then, if we share the 'observer' mode with
>> God? :-) It is a profound question.
>
>Perhaps simplests picture is that only these moments of cs exist
>subjectively. This is maximal economy of concepts.
>All essential about God is captured since quantum jumps are acts of free
>will also. If one wants to call it God, ok.
>>
Yes, an open question -- from a left brain point of view.
>> You, as the neonate, would feel both joyful and scared! Existentially
>> terrified! Filled with 'nameless dread'. No wonder you cry a fair amount
>> of the time, you poor boy :-) ... But in the background there is always the
>> memory of that first epiphany at birth: A discovery that would set thrills
>> running down your spine for weeks, months ... But gradually buried under the
>> pressure of "reality". Until the law of the survival of the fittest takes
>> over, and eventually you, the growing child, feel compelled to OBEY the
>> reality-principle, now both 'in here' and 'out there'. Basically the law
>> laid down by the mother and/or the father.
>>
>> And thus the epiphany, the moment of gravitational imprinting by the
>> immediate solar system that had been FELT by you at birth, gradually gets
>> buried even more under quantum subhistories which give the impression --
>> increasingly the FALSE impression! -- that they are the most alert. "False"
>> because they cause you, as a biosystem, to feel "out of touch". And when
>> one is out of touch it can begin to make one ill; physically and/or mentally.
>>
>
>> In physics, some talk about a true and a false vacuum.
>
>How to define 'false' in quantum physics terms, is
>interesting problem. What about following? We construct representations
>of the external world: at these almost empty spacetime sheet
>in weak interaction with the 'real' external world via wormhole contacts.
>This representation is false in some respects if it does not give
>faithful representation of the external world?
Yes, absolutely.
A more abstract
> manner to be 'false' is that some abstraction, 'law of physics', form
>as representation of represention of ...of external world fails to
>be faitful.
Yes. And I think in the human case when the representation of the
representation "fails to be faithful", it is because we fail to remember
that our symbols are actually *substitute* objects, i.e. substitutes for the
original object, which was the universe and/or mother. I can make a good
case, for instance, to the effect that (geometric) Time stems from the
relationship to the father, and Space from the mother. Just
psychologically, I mean.
>
>MP
>
>> I'm just making the
>> point that Homo sapiens sapiens is the species that is not very good at
>> distinguishing between which is the truly and which the "falsely" alert
>> quantum subsystem(s). Here bimodal-psychoanalysis can assist (because
>> ideally it lends insight -- even down to the level of helping one to
>> properly differentiate between left and right at a *physical* level). When
>> one realises that the way up is the way down, too, then learning how to get
>> all this "right" can make all the difference.
>>
>>
>> BB
>>
>>
>> >MP
>> >
>> >> 5. Moreover the most important human problems are related to the
>> >> phenomena of: pain, pleasure, satisfaction, emotions, frustration,
>> >> meaning of one-self; it means are related to such notions as:
>> >> consciousness, soul, the destiny after death!
>> >
The most interesting question, to me, is where pain/pleasure originate.
Qualia again ... unless present from the outset of life, I do not see that
they can be put in by hand later on.
BB
Subject: Re: Metaphor of metaphors
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:49:57 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Matti Pitkanen <matpitka@pcu.helsinki.fi>
Reply-To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Barron Burrow wrote:
> Matti Pitkanen wrote (Sat, 18 Apr 1998):
> >
> >On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Barron Burrow wrote:
> >
> >> Matti Pitkanen wrote (Fri, 17 Apr 1998):
> >>
> >> >
> >> >On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Czytelnia wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >From Andrzej Brodziak
> >> >> I am sending the following text, but it is also at
> >> >> http://www.slam.katowice.pl/~klin5chw/PhoenixA.html
SNIP
> >> >Direct subjective experience gives justification for the hypothesis of
> >> many-sheeted spacetime emerging from extremely abstract mathematical
> >> construction! This is something which one should ponder for longer than it
> >> takes time to read this sentence. Personally, I remember that this
> >> discovery put thrills to wander along my spine for several weeks.
> >> >
> >>
> >> In TGD, it is the most 'alert' subsystem that makes the jump to
> >> consciousness.
> >
> >
> >Actually not to. Jump itself IS the moment of cs.
>
> I wondered if it MIGHT be as you're saying here. But since one tends to
> employ cs. to see an object, say, ana apple or an orange, does that imply
> that at a 'hidden' level one is apprehending the whole universe in that
> object? (For example, William Blake speaks of seeing "Infinity in a grain
> of sand".)
The moment of cs defines the division of world to subsystem and
complement: this is the basic unescapable structure of cs (at least
in TGD picture). The entire Universe is the experiencer but the contents
of cs experience creates the illusion about me and the world out there.
>
> >I hear Your counterarguing that one should talk about periods
> >of cs rather than moments.
>
> Moments or periods works quite fine for me.
One could however on good grounds argue that our subjective experience
does not seem to consist of discrete moments.
>
> >The model of the soul as p-adic entropy=0
> >system, shows that one can get quite near to this concept about
> >consciousness in TGD framework. System able to participate to a series of
> >> >> 5. Moreover the most important human problems are related to the
> >> >> phenomena of: pain, pleasure, satisfaction, emotions, frustration,
> >> >> meaning of one-self; it means are related to such notions as:
> >> >> consciousness, soul, the destiny after death!
> >> >
>
> The most interesting question, to me, is where pain/pleasure originate.
> Qualia again ... unless present from the outset of life, I do not see that
> they can be put in by hand later on.
One might think that this is related to the conflict between the
expected behaviour of the world and what actually happens.
The representation (recall these almost empty spacetime sheets
providing the representations) predict that things will happen in
this manner and when this does not actually happen in the spacetime
sheet corresponding to the 'world out there', pain is felt.
Representation is 'false' in some respects and 'I' suffers. Sounds like
Krishamurti (it was at least meant to sound so (:-)).
It would be interesting project to try translate the vocabulary of cs
to the language of TGD inspired theory of cs.
>
>
> BB
Subject: Geomagnetic storm and netiquette issue
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 14:43:42 +0100
From: Dzial Udostepniania Zbiorow Biblioteki SAM <bibudos@infomed.slam.katowice.pl>
Reply-To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
From: Andrzej Brodziak
I have “indirect” access to the Internet terminal of my Faculty of
Medicine since two monthes.
A person from the staff of the Library perform for me the printings of
the “omega-point-theory” mailing list (except weekends).
All the day I am occupied with my patients because I am practising
physician.
I am reading the printings of the “O-P-T-” - mailing list in the
evening, at home.
Anyhow, I found in these printings the following fragment:
From: Mitchell Porter
To: omega-point-theory@europe.std.com
Subject: Re: Re: My humble opinion on TOPT
Date: Saturday, March 22, 1997 10:59AM
[Anders Sandberg] it happens all the time: Penrose with his quantum
gravity consciousness, Eddington with his “numerology”, Hoyle with his
disease from space theories, and so on. It is an interesting fact that
many physicists (and other scientists) when grow older tend to develop
weird theories they defend adamantly despite the fact that almost nobody
else is convinced. I don’t know why.
[ Mitchell] Because THAT’S ACTUALLY HOW IT IS, Anders! Can’t you see??
There IS a galactic bacterial ecology! The brain IS a quantum oracle
(not computer)! The answer IS 42!
By God, one has to SOUND like a mad scientist even to BEGIN to voice the
truth, and still people think you’re just joking ... until it’s too
late...
-mitch
http//www.thehub.com.au/~mitch
I think that my ideas ‘how to connect a couple of neurons to be able to
recollect the mental image perceived formerly just by a least quantum of
action imposed by the changes of the set-point of the superior one” it
is an equivalent of my “weird theory” which I developed “when I grow
older” and which I try to propagate it, because, it seems to me
extremely important for the future, (rather far future) when we will be
push: (1) first to construct “efficient robots” and afterwards to (2)
upload our intelligence into this kind of non-biological “form of
existence”.
My resonant “equi-me-re” unit could be usefull, however yet before. It
allow for instance to comprehend the mechanism of biological rhythms
(clooks) and to understand why we are sensitive for subtle
electromagnetic fields (geomagnetic storms also). On 30 Oct. the
planetary A index was 10, but was decreasing since several days (see
Solar Terrestrial Activity Report, http:// dxlc.com/solar/).
Anyhow I posted “a whole essay” because in my letter “How to implement
self-awareness into robots” I refereed to this “whole essay” and I found
the same day that the “essay” disappeared by reason of “software damage”
from my homepage (kind of homepage named “Phenomena Research Journal”).
So I put the same day diagrams (figures) necessary to understand the
paper again. I was not able to insert the same day the text in html
format, so I posted it.
Apologize again
Andrzej Brodziak, text was formulated on 31.10.97
Subject: Recall of mental images...
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:57:14 +0100
From: Dzial Udostepniania Zbiorow Biblioteki SAM <bibudos@infomed.slam.katowice.pl>
Reply-To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
In my former letter from 28 Oct. “How to implement...” I
mentioned the paper:”The unit of neural networks modelling recall of
mental images...”
Jan Pieter Verhey reacted to this letter.
Apologize, but I put again today (by reson of “software damage”) on
the server of the Faculty
http://www.slam.katowice.pl/~klin5chw/phenomen.html.
figures necessary to understand the paper” The unit...”
The full text of this paper I am sending as a letter.
Excuse me such a long post.
(snip)
Subject: Synopsis of TGD for biologist and neurologist ?
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 17:25:46 +0100
From: Dzial Udostepniania Zbiorow Biblioteki SAM <bibudos@infomed.slam.katowice.pl>
Reply-To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
>From Andrzej Brodziak
Several recent letters considered reasons to to look for new basic
theories in the field of physics. Matti Pitkanen in the letter
"Re:Bounce", on 26 Nov. wrote.:
"There are of course anomalies but it takes time to verify them. In the
meantime theoreticans could also consider other possibilities than
standard unifications (such as TGD(:-)).And then there is long list of
long standing problems of cosmology,etc."
I read recently the M.Pittkanen's homeopage.
I think that an aditional reason exists for trial of the verification of
TGD. After T.O.P it is probably the unique physical theory which
concerns strongly the biology and even practical medicine so, the impact
of this theory could be great. There are however a little difficulty!
A short synapsis on the "intelectual level" of a secondary school is
necessary. Biologists ,neurologist, psychiatrist, physicians are not
abble to "jump" several first assumptions from the realm of topology.
An award or scholarship for popularizing text should be proposed(:-).
Andrzej Brodziak
Subject: Quantum physics , astrophysics and UFO phenomena
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:40:23 +0100
From: Dzial Udostepniania Zbiorow Biblioteki SAM <bibudos@infomed.slam.katowice.pl>
Reply-To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
>From Andrzej Brodziak
.. I found in the letter sub title “Bounce... Subject: Deutsch refutes
paranormal”, sent by E. Weinmannm on 1 Dec. 1997 the following
fragments...”It is important to understand that Deutsch considers this
magical as impossible. But we have seen that he may omit the fiber
structure attached to spacetime and the nonclasical, nonlocal connection
between spacetime events that permit such magic and make what is
classically impossible, quantum possible. Indeed, his shuffle symmetry
is broken by the kinds of paranormal events reported by Jacques Vallee,
for exampl in UFO phenomena...”
and bellow:
“What about observations of UFOs making impossible maneuvers recorded on
many videotapes especially recently in Mexico City? Objects would
instantaneously cease to exist at one point and reappear at another.
Second, and more important, the laws of physics would no longer hold .
There would exist a different set of laws that took the shuffling into
account and correctly described the shuffled spacetime We are getting
dangerously close to nonsense here Of course the inhabitants could not
tell the difference. I they could they would . But they do Its called
the paranormal.”
[AB] Yes! I am thinking that the challenge for the community of
physicists exists.
“I class of UFO like phenomena” is explained by “classical” physics,
like atmospheric, stratospheric and astronomical “happenings”.
We people have began construct, apart of satellites, first space-crafts
which produce (will produce) “II- nd class of UFO like phenomena”.But
many questions are related to new physical and astrophysical concepts:
as “reading” of entangled photons, planetary influence of remote “heavy
objects (like pulsars), objects which constitutes gravitational lenses,
possible influence of remote wormholes and so on.
Some of these phenomena could evoke “III-rd class of UFO like
phenomena”. These possibilities should be considered by physicists and
expressed in comprehensible common sense language. It seems important
to set in order a rationally, grounded image (model) of the world, what
is essential for human condition of “inhabitants”.
Andrzej Brodziak
Subject: Re. Christmas and Jung
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:40:54 +0100
From: Dzial Udostepniania Zbiorow Biblioteki SAM <bibudos@infomed.slam.katowice.pl>
Reply-To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
>From Andrzej Brodziak
Melissa Beck in the letter sub title “Jung”, sent on 15 Dec. 1997
wrote...:>> [mb]- -” I give almost no creedence to ‘everyday mysticism’,
but rather concentrate on getting at the reality of what happened in
common to Moses, Jesus, Paul, Mohammed, & Hallaj. I would be glad to
add to this list anyone else who qualifies. Perhaps you have some
suggestions...”
So, I propose to add to the list or to put in the opposition to this
list the name of Srinivas Ramanujan (see the book of Michio Kaku -
“Hiperspace...”) Shortly I have my personal hypothesis [AB] about
prophets and mesiashs related to the “Solar-planetary imprinting” My
thesis states: [ New religious concepts arise in minds (in the heads) of
some particular people during periods of “low solar activity”. New
scientific concepts are evoked in human minds at “peaks” of cyclic solar
activity, which occurs at the rate ± 11 years].
Former and relatively new religious concepts occurred always in periods
of “low solar activity” [see the diagram of the cyclic solar activity,
published by Elisabeth Nesme-Ribes, Sallie L. Baliunas and Dimitrij
Sokolow in “Scientific American”, 1996, nr 8].
My “hypothesis” is conformable with “older revelations” [see data in:
Stephenson F.R., Wolfenbdale A. (Ed.): Secular solar and geomagnetic
variations in the last 10000 years, NATO ASI Series, 1982, Series C,
vol. 236] and data about the main “modern”, most recent religious
“novelties” like the: (1) the appearance of “Moroni’s angel” to Joseph
Smith on 21.09.1823 (the foundation of Mormon’s Church), (2) the
publication of the first edition of the Mary Baker-Eddy’s bible in 1875,
i.g. the foundation of the Church of “Christian Science”, (3) the
activity of Lafayette Ron Hubbard, the foundation of the Church of
Scientology on 1953.
Hence, my thesis is that: [the most important ideas are evoked in human
brains of some individuals with particular “histological (anatomical)
structure”. These people usually have enormous quantity of astrocytes
(gial cells of central nervous systems brain).
The “anegdotal prove” could be the fragment of the book of Higfield R.
and Carter P.:”The private lives of Albert Einstein”, Faber and Faber
Ltd, 1993 (page 326-327). R. Highfield writes: [This morning dr Thomas
Harvey did the autopsy of Einstein’s body ... shortly the Einstein’s
brain had much of astrocytes].
These individuals are sensitive to the changing emission of solar radio
waves and positions of subsequent ‘coronal holes’ which are enormous
magnets.
There are three types of these “individuals” (probably with slightly
different “histological brain structure”). I.g. (a) the creative people,
(b) politicians, © spiritual guides. At the “peak” of solar activity the
most active are: [a] “the creative people”; when the solar activity
decreases: [b] “the politicians take over the task”. At the period of
the minimum of the actual cycle of the solar activity “phrophets
(messiahs)” sometime undertake their activity.
As a conclusion of above remarks I am formulating the thesis that the
mental activity of humans is probably controlled by a kind of superior
intelligence which send his messages trough stars as emitters. It is not
completely paranoid idea. Giordano Bruno proved that it is very
interesting concept, however the progress about his idea dosn’t
proceeds.
Greetings
Andrzej Brodziak
Subject: "Biosphere is kaput-about 2050"-Tipler's anticipation.
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 13:47:54 +0100
From: Dzial Udostepniania Zbiorow Biblioteki SAM <bibudos@infomed.slam.katowice.pl>
To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
>From Andrzej Brodziak
The interview (conversation) between F.J.Tipler and McLaughlin, which
was quoted by Mellisa Beck in her letter sub title “Re:
omega-point-theory” ,sent on 27 Dec 1997 includes the following
fragment:
“MCLAUGHLIN: Now, you’re also saying that the technology for this will
be available at the mid-next century, correct?
TIPLER: That’s the best guess according to the expert technologists. We
should have the power to do this. We have to have the power eventually,
otherwise the whole biosphere is kaput”.
This fragment of the interview demonstrates that F.Tipler anticipates
a total deterioration for people’s condition and further development on
our Planet. Thus, it will happen very soon. Mikio Kaku is talking in his
book “Hiperspace...” about three threats: I. Uranium threat, II.
Ecological and demographical threat, and III. Lack of energy resources.
Our s-f. writer and futorologist: Stanislaw Lem estimates (the
interview published on 31.11.1997) that the threat of nuclear wars is
just now enormous (a nuclear impire is not controled more by so called
goverment i.g.’formal autorities’).
Hence my thesis of to-day is that the future of O.P.T., depends
just now rather from psychological unconprehensible factors and from
the effective theory of dialogue (see ref.:1,2).
References:
1/ Brodziak.A.:[”Is the synthesis of brain sciences necessary?- or how
to avoid new religion wars?]
2/ Wilhelm Reich.:”The murder of Christ “ Farrar, Straus $ Giroux,
Inc.,1966
(W.Reich was a follower of Freud and Jung)
Best
Andrzej Brodziak
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 17:35:39 +0100
From: Dzial Udostepniania Zbiorow Biblioteki SAM <bibudos@infomed.slam.katowice.pl>
Reply-To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
To: omega-point-theory@world.std.com
CC: sarfatti@well.com
>From Andrzej Brodziak
Matti Pittkanen in the letter sub title "p-adic length scale hypothesis,
viruses..."sent on 30 Dec.1997 wrote:
>p-Adic length scale hypothesis... predicts that primes near prime powers of two correspond to physicaly important length scales...
>This in turn suggests that k=157 and k=163 correspond to some primitive lifeforms. k=157 could perhaps have a natural identification as the spacetime sheet of VIRUSES...
>Candidates for twin pairs are DNA double helix, cell membrane, epithelial...
I am study the homeopage of Chris Lofting
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ddiamond and I try to find the relation
between Matti's hypothesis and Chris Lofting's theory. I didn't succeed.
May I ask Dear Matti and Dear Chris are any relation between yours
ideas?
Best
Andrzej Brodziak
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 09:51:53 +1100
From: mooney@hitech.net.au (Stephen Mooney)
To: bibudos@infomed.slam.katowice.pl
Andrzej Brodziak.
In a post to the omega-point-theory list you stated that "New scientific
concepts are evoked in human minds at ,,peaks” of cyclic solar
activity, which occurs at the rate ± 11 years".
Interestingly, the number 11 appears on my physics paradigm as the
potential of 7 at level [4]. See the attached extract.
Stephen Mooney